Thread: God Save the Queen ...

Originally Posted by Rebirth

Steve,

So she has no power in any meaningful sense and can only 'be advised', and is effectively subject to the PM's world view. I suppose she is a great asset as a propaganda tool for getting the nation to accept government policy, if the appearance of Royal approval exists. Not really a beacon of hope at this end.

Apart from some unconditional love, I fail to see how we are in disagreement.

Well, I hear - and understand better where you're coming from - but I would like to see some of that power restored (as I 'm sure you derived). I guess that was part of the reason that I stuck to UKIP so closely, and yes, I have an "instilled" affection for our Royal family and it's place in our country, inherited, if you will. I see no reason to change it.

For my money, let's try a few years of absolute rule from Buck House, chuck the politician trash on the dole - except for 111 of them - who can act as the New Privy Council.

Oh, and can we bring the 'stocks' back? And open up the Tower "for business"?

Originally Posted by EMF

Doesn't the term "monarchy" mean absolute power of the ruler? Therefore calling the present system of government in a number of European countries by that name is a bit of a misnomer.

The British monarchy was the first in Europe to relinguish or lose, either way, its power to the government and parliament.

Not necessarily. There are several constitutional monarchies (like the UK) in the EU; The Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Spain and Sweden, then there's Liechtenstein, Norway, etc. - in none of these countries does the reigning monarch have absolute rule.

Queen Elizabeth II is still my Head of State, and parliament still answers to her - constituionally. While this may not appear to happen, it is still laid down in the British (unwritten) constitution, and while pro-EU Quisling filth are trying to undermine and subvert this - via High Treason - many decent loyal patriots are trying to prevent it.

Originally Posted by Steve Morson

but I would like to see some of that power restored (as I 'm sure you derived).

Nope. I was just pointing out that she is either powerless and simply playing along for her own family's benefit, or, perhaps, has unofficial power over a certain Prime Minister.

Originally Posted by Steve Morson

I have an "instilled" affection for our Royal family and it's place in our country, inherited, if you will. I see no reason to change it.

You just said you want some of that authoritarian Royal elitist power restored.

Originally Posted by Steve Morson

Oh, and can we bring the 'stocks' back? And open up the Tower "for business"?

Why are you asking me? My opinion is null and void.

Originally Posted by rjt

Rather unsurprised at the pathetic behaviour of Martin Mcguniness the IRA quartermaster and Sinn Fein who refused to pay tribute to the Queen at the Northern Ireland Assembly today. Other nationalists can do it but oh no they are so special!

I shouldn't thinkthe Queen is too bothered about a mass murderer not paying tribute to her. It would be a bit like getting a tribute from Dr.Shipman and he wasn't responsible for half number of murders McGuinness is.

Nope. I was just pointing out that she is either powerless and simply playing along for her own family's benefit, or, perhaps, has unofficial power over a certain Prime Minister.

Well, I don't think either is the case.

You just said you want some of that authoritarian Royal elitist power restored.

Yes, well read, I did. Re-read perhaps?

Why are you asking me? My opinion is null and void.

Ah, bless. Well, it was attempt at subject-related humour, which I can now see was a mistake. Won't happen again.

rebirth - question for you. Would you prefer to have a monarchy or a president?

Originally Posted by angelman

rebirth - question for you. Would you prefer to have a monarchy or a president?

Both are just as dangerous as each other without a clear constitution that cannot be torn up.

Also remember that she is the Queen of Canada as well, along with being the Queen of Australia and New Zealand. She has a duty, and she fulfils that duty superbly!