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    Quote Originally Posted by Endangered View Post
    The "Flynn effect" is not conclusive. Everything I see tells me people are getting dumb and dumberer.
    Reverse Flynn effect?

    In the meantime however, there have been studies that indicate the Flynn effect may have ended. Studies in Denmark, Norway and the United Kingdom have shown that the Flynn effect has not only ended, but that there is actually a decrease in the average IQ scores. Convincing explanations for this reversal have not been found yet.
    Flynn effect
    You're like so totally whatever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Star Wolf View Post
    IQ of Nazi leaders, cited from: Gilbert, G. M.: New York: Signet Book 1947, p. 34

    Hjalmar Schacht IQ 143
    Arthur Seyss-Inquart IQ 141
    Hermann Göring IQ 138
    Karl Dönitz IQ 138
    Franz von Papen IQ 134
    Erich Räder IQ 134
    Dr. Hans Frank IQ 130
    Hans Fritsche IQ 130
    Baldur von Schirach IQ 130
    Joachim von Ribbentropp IQ 129
    Wilhelm Keitel IQ 129
    Albert Speer IQ 128
    Alfred Jodl IQ 127
    Alfred Rosenberg IQ 127
    Constantin von Neurath IQ 125
    Walter Funk IQ 124
    Wilhelm Frick IQ 124
    Rudolf Hess IQ 120
    Fritz Sauckel IQ 118
    Ernst Kaltenbrunner IQ 113
    Julius Streicher IQ 106
    On what scale? What would the top 1% fall out on this scale?

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_England View Post
    On what scale? What would the top 1% fall out on this scale?
    Yessss...I beat them all. 147. The IQ is normally on average around 115-120. I was tested twice by an agency of the German government, in regards to a job application. the second time I got 145, but the night before I had been on the booze and was still a little drunk when I arrived at the testing centre. Intelligence test dont prove much, and a lot is placed upon results which dont always tie up with other abilities needed in society. The only advantage I have found is an ability to ignore often proven methods and improve or throw into question things generally accepted by the majority. Hence I later was given trouble shooting tasks.
    It does not mean I can deal with my own concerns, often I have the answers to other peoples problems, while my own go unresolved and I often find I have to resort to friends advice, thinking too much can be something negative and depressing indeed.

    Thinking outside of the box can be risky, when things inside the box are vital to the resolving of a given task.
    The BNP as an organisation is functional, but out of control, information output is negative while input is left unused. The machine is worn out and needs replacing.We all can hear the grinding of its cogs and the squeaking of its outer parts, the tread on its tyres say, pit stop and soon. A good lick of paint is much needed and a cleaner fuel.

    I dont think the IQ rating say anything about the BNP members at all. Ideology has little to do with intelligence, just look at those religious nuts who have high IQs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rexdeus View Post
    Yessss...I beat them all. 147. The IQ is normally on average around 115-120. I was tested twice by an agency of the German government, in regards to a job application.
    Mensa measured me in the 150s (and that was before I went college, which has undoubtedly improved my IQ). However, standard deviations ... well ... they deviate, so your 145 might not 'beat' the 143 - it depends on the scales used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papa Luigi View Post
    On the contrary, if you take a good hard look at a Zulu Kraal, a Bantu tribal witchdoctor, and his Ju-Ju beads, and then compare them with, say the city of Oxford and the doctors at Harefield Hospital, and a lap-top computer, the difference is the dividend that individuals with a higher IQ have contributed to civilisation.
    A bit simplistic. There are lots of reasons why certain parts of the world developed and others didn't. IQ might be involved but there appears no particular evidence for it. IQ tests cannot compare intelligence from people with vastly different cultures anyway.

    The Chinese typically have higher IQ than us but somehow they allowed their superior civilisation to collapse a few hundred years ago and are only now catching up.

    Plus there are many far more important things than IQ - I say that as someone who has quite a high one but know that a persuasive manner, a hard work ethic and an ability to work with others are equal or better things to have in your personality.

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    There is something profoundly unintelligent about professing one's intelligence using statistics and unquantifiables .. quite ironic I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by For_England View Post
    On what scale? What would the top 1% fall out on this scale?
    From a cursery Google search I found the same figures here: IQ's of Nazi leaders tried for war crimes

    The source I found states that a German version of the Wechsler-Bellevue test was used. This test produces results with a standard deviation of 15, i.e. where approximately 68% of the population fall within the range 85 to 115, with the average set at 100.

    I'm not sure about the top 1% measurement level, but at Mensa they work on the basis that the top 2% will fall at or beyond two standard deviations above the average. On the Wechsler-Bellevue scale, this would be 115 x 1.15 = 132 or above.

    Mensa use the Cattell Culture Fair test which has the same scale as the Wechsler test, and also the Cattell B test which works on a standard deviation of 24. Therefore on the Cattell B test to be in the top 2% intelligence wise one would need to score 124 x 1.24 = 153 or above and someone with a score of 132 on the Wechsler test would theoretically have the same intelligence as someone scoring 153 on the Cattell B test.

    I would estimate that all of those from Karl Donitz upwards on Star Wolf's list would have been in the top 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
    There is something profoundly unintelligent about professing one's intelligence using statistics and unquantifiables .. quite ironic I think.
    Not something you'll ever have to worry about then.
    "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities" ~ Voltaire


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    Quote Originally Posted by Endangered View Post
    Not something you'll ever have to worry about then.
    Heyyyy Enraged ! how the hell are yah .. life's still a bytch, huh
    Last edited by Marilyn; 07-06-2011 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
    Heyyyy Enraged ! how the hell are yah .. life's still a bytch, huh
    No, not life, but most people think you are.
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