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    Recently, one of our local BNP members was subjected to an attempt at ridicule in the local press by a Green Party activist who claimed that a magazine survey published in 2008 showed that BNP members have the lowest average IQ of any political party in the UK. It was claimed that BNP members have an average IQ of just 98.4, i.e. 1.6 points below the national average of 100.

    I decided to investigate this matter in order to establish the truth and found that the survey in question was not commissioned by the magazine quoted, but was merely reported, having been reported by a number of publications including most national newspapers in November 2008.

    I tracked down the survey to a paper published by some psychologists at Edinburgh University, under the title, "Childhood intelligence predicts voter turnout, voting preferences, and political involvement in adulthood: The 1970 British Cohort Study".

    In order to view the whole paper it would be necessary for me to pay a fee, but an abstract of the aticle was in the public domain and I decided that there was sufficient information here and also in the media articles to be able to demonstrate that the media reporting of its contents was media construed, politically motivated nonsense.

    Apparently the 1970 British Cohort Study (BCS) involved testing the IQ of 6,000 10 year old children and then ascertaining which political party they supported in the 2001 General Election, 24 years later, at the age of 34. According to the report in the Daily Telegraph on 2nd November 2008, the study reported the average IQs of the supporters of the various UK political parties as follows;

    Green Party:...108.3
    Lib-Dems:......108.2
    Conservative:.103.7
    Labour:.........103.0
    Plaid Cymru:..102.5
    SNP:.............102.2
    UKIP:............101.1
    BNP:..............98.4
    Non Voters:....99.7

    Apparently, not only were BNP supporters less intelligent than the supporters of the other parties, the BNP was the only political party reported with an average IQ below the national average IQ of 100, and reported to be less intelligent even, than non-voters. Clearly this study, if interpreted correctly, was a Godsend for so called anti-fascists and something they can delight in using to ridicule us, ... or is it?

    Almost immediately, I noticed an anomaly in the statistics reported.

    Knowing that the average IQ is 100, one would expect there to be roughly the same number of people below the average as above the average, as by definition 50% of people must be below average, while the other 50% are above average. The results of this study as reported in the media however, appeared to position far more people above the average than below the average, and this could not be right.

    I noticed also that while the BNP voters deviated from the average by only 1.6 points, the Labour, Conservative, Lib-Dem and Green voters appeared to deviate from the average by a much greater margin, by between 3.0 and 8.3 points. Thus the results of this study as reported in the media appeared to place the bulk of the electorate, with apparently markedly high average IQs above the average, counter-balanced by a relatively small number of people with only marginally lower than average IQs below the average, and again this could not be right.

    I turned to Wikipedia for the results of the 2001 General Election and was able to build upon the table shown above as follows;

    PARTY............Ave IQ.....# Voters
    Green Party:......108.3........166,477
    Lib-Dems:.........108.2......4,814,321
    Conservative:....103.7......8,357,615
    Labour:.............103.0....10,724,953
    Plaid Cymru:......102.5........195,893
    SNP:.................102.2........464,314
    UKIP:................101.1........390,563
    BNP:..................98.4..........47,129
    Total Votes Cast:............26,368,204
    Non Voters:....99.7
    Voter Turnout 59.4%

    With a turnout of 59.4%, that means the total number of potential electors was (26,368,204 divided by 0.594 =) 44,390,916 and the number of non-voters was (44,390,916 minus 26,368,204 =) 18,022,712.

    Furthemore, I added up the number of people voting for all of parties listed to get 25,161,265 and calculated therefore, that the total of the number of people voting for all of the other smaller parties was (26,368,204 minus 25,161,265 =)1,206,939.

    I knew that if we took the total number of electors and multiplied that figure by 100, the national average IQ, it would produce a factor which would be equal to the total of all of the IQs of the electorate, and furthermore that this number would be equal to the sum of the equivalent factors for all of the political parties and all of the non-voters. I therefore built on my table to produce the following;

    PARTY............Ave IQ.....# Voters........Total IQ Factor
    Green Party:......108.3.x......166,477....=.....18,029,4 59 (a)
    Lib-Dems:.........108.2.x....4,814,321....=...520,909, 532 (b)
    Conservative:....103.7.x....8,357,615....=...866,6 84,675 (c)
    Labour:.............103.0.x..10,724,953....=1,104, 670,159 (d)
    Plaid Cymru:......102.5.x......195,893....=.....20,079,0 32 (e)
    SNP:.................102.2.x......464,314....=.... .47,452,890 (f)
    UKIP:................101.1.x......390,563....=.... .39,485,919 (g)
    BNP:..................98.4..x.......47,129.....=.. ....4,637,493 (h)
    Other Parties:......(x)...x....1,206939....=...........(y)
    Non Voters:........99.7..x..18,022,712....=1,796,864,3 86 (i)
    ELECTORATE:....100.0.x ..44,390,916....=4,439,091,600(z)

    In order to prove or disprove the validity of the IQ figures published and purporting to come from the Edinburgh University study, I needed just two more figures to complete my table.

    I knew that the grand total of all of the Total IQ Factors, i.e. (z) in my table, a figure of 4,439,091,600, must be equal to the total of all of the Total IQ Factors for each of the individual parties and for non voters added together. This enabled me to calculate the total IQ factor for the 'Other Parties', by subtracting figures (a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f), (g), (h) and (i) from (z) to get 20,278,051.

    Now in order to prove or disprove the validity of the published figures, I now simply needed to divide the total IQ factor for 'Other Parties' by the number of 'other party' voters and if the result is a realistic IQ figure, the study results would be validated, but if the result is either a ridiculously high figure or a ridiculously low figure, this would invalidate the published IQ figures.

    If we divide 20,278,051 by the number of 'other party' voters, 1,206,939, it produces a figure for the average IQ for other party voters of just 16.8!

    Such a loe IQ would mean that these voters would have a level of intelligence equivalent to that of a typical family dog. They would not be able to read, write or count and would have a vocabulary limited to about ten sounds. They would be considered to be profoundly mentally handicapped.

    Obviously, the average IQ of those voting for 'other parties' cannot possibly be that low and therefore the average IQ figures for the various political parties, as published, purporting to be based on the results of the Edinburgh University study are proven to be utter nonsense.

    Strangely, lefty journalists and anti-fascist activists of the sort that would normally denigrate IQ studies that traditionally have shown racial differences in IQ, and who have claimed in the past that IQ is not a true measure of intelligence, did not put forward these same kind of arguments when they presented the alleged findings of this study. Furthermore, none of them took the time to subject the information they were publishing to critical examination in the way that I have done.

    Their motives for not doing so were obviously the result of an habitual convention of mindlessly publishing anything they can find that reflects badly upon British nationalists.

    Shame on them!

    As for the psychologists at Edinburgh University, I don't believe that they would have deliberately corrupted their figures for political purposes. What I believe my calculations show however is that their sample of 6,000 people was obviously too small to provide a properly representative sample size and when projected on a national scale, using the General Election statistics, this becomes glaringly obvious.
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    another point is that the sample size of 6,000 is too small - there would be 22 Green Party voters and 6 BNP voters - thats assuming they could contact all 6,000. With a gap of 24 years, I consider this most unlikely. It could well be the case they could only contact 1 BNP voter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bevois View Post
    another point is that the sample size of 6,000 is too small - there would be 22 Green Party voters and 6 BNP voters - thats assuming they could contact all 6,000. With a gap of 24 years, I consider this most unlikely. It could well be the case they could only contact 1 BNP voter.
    You are correct and I guess I added the final paragrah to my post while you were composing your reply. An astute observation on your part.
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    So bnp folk are what we always thought - fairly ignorant. Demographics would be a good one. That would top it off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxian View Post
    So bnp folk are what we always thought - fairly ignorant. Demographics would be a good one. That would top it off
    On the contrary, as Bevois and I have shown in our posts above, we are very astute!
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    Lou,

    A couple of observations.

    First, voting, like any voluntary activity, is an IQ filter. The folks on the left side of the curve vote are less likely to vote than the folks on the right. I would expect the IQ for voters for all parties to be above the average. Bear in mind that IQ 105 gets you a shop worker or postman, and 110 a shop manager or salesman. Average is no great shakes.

    Second, the taking up of an anti-Establishment, anti-media politics is also an IQ filter. I would expect the average for such independent-minded souls to be higher than that for supporters of the safe and mainstream.

    BNP voters are likely to be more thoughtful, independent and self-motivated than the average party voter, and I would quite see the true average IQ in the area of 106 to 108.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Palfrey View Post
    Lou,

    A couple of observations.

    First, voting, like any voluntary activity, is an IQ filter. The folks on the left side of the curve vote are less likely to vote than the folks on the right. I would expect the IQ for voters for all parties to be above the average. Bear in mind that IQ 105 gets you a shop worker or postman, and 110 a shop manager or salesman. Average is no great shakes.

    Second, the taking up of an anti-Establishment, anti-media politics is also an IQ filter. I would expect the average for such independent-minded souls to be higher than that for supporters of the safe and mainstream.

    BNP voters are likely to be more thoughtful, independent and self-motivated than the average party voter, and I would quite see the true average IQ in the area of 106 to 108.
    I agree entirely.
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    You are out in your first assumption. The average IQ is not 100. It was when the tests were first introduced but the Flynn effect has led to its increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by high road View Post
    You are out in your first assumption. The average IQ is not 100. It was when the tests were first introduced but the Flynn effect has led to its increase.
    Actually, the tests are regularly rebased so that the average remains 100, despite the Flynn effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bevois View Post
    another point is that the sample size of 6,000 is too small - there would be 22 Green Party voters and 6 BNP voters - thats assuming they could contact all 6,000. With a gap of 24 years, I consider this most unlikely. It could well be the case they could only contact 1 BNP voter.
    Indeed, and it is also highly likely that an intelligent BNP voter in a good job, would not disclose the fact he voted BNP.

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