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    I haven't asked you to reveal my identity, as you know. You're quite correct that some might wrongly believe anon posters to be people they are not - skeptyk has had multiple claims in that regard. That reality, naturally, was the reason for my request to the mods of this forum - not just you Richard. I don't have a blackberry so don't know anything about them. I believe you know where I typically post from - the same place I have posted from for several years - which is nowhere near the West Midlands. Quite why you wish to keep Mr Morson in the dark about that I cannot imagine. If you had reason to believe I did regularly logon from the West Midlands I don't think you would have had any compunction in acceding to my request.

    If you and other mods are unwilling to help Mr Morson appreciate that which I would like him to appreciate I only hope his suggested legal action against Mr Ison doesn't try to involve me. Mr Morson will look like a vindictive fool, cause me probable destitution and Mr Ison will come up looking like roses. Which leads me back to the beginning about Mr Ison laughing his head off at this discussion.
    I think you missed my point. An IP address does not necessarily show where you are posting from. In some cases it does relate to a location close to where you are posting from but in other cases it relates to a location several hundred miles away or even in a different country. Also in some people's case their IP address changes on a frequent basis. You are a case in point and have posted on this site from roughly 1,500 IP addresses.

    I have just selected three of your IP addresses at random. The first traced to Central London, the second to Chelmsford and the third to the Yorkshire Dales. This is why I cannot provide the assistance that you seek.

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    What damage has Ison done to UKIP Richard? As you know, Ison was a candidate for UKIP in Solihull at the GE last year - it was alleged by Ray Mabbott on this very forum that Ison was instructed by Nikki Sinclaire to file his candidacy papers 15 minutes before the deadline but to change his party from UKIP to Sinclaire's SAMRA party, thus gazumping UKIP and not giving them time to react and have a candidate in place. Are you saying that Ison was damaging UKIP then by rejecting this wholly anti-UKIP plan?

    Hi Steve - thanks for your clarifications. The last few comments on this thread have illustrated to me that Ison may have knocked Mark Croucher off his perch as the most disliked UKIPper, though I dare say neither of them care too much!! If someone presented me with proof of the numerous allegations against Ison, I would be most grateful. For now though, I will keep an open mind.

    And I must confess to having never tried HPA though it was once a guest beer in one of my pubs of choice. As I have stated before, my preference for pint of Timothy Taylor's Landlord over-rides all over tipples. Especially given the limited number of pubs near me that stock it, its scarcity adds to its quality for me!!! The downside is that its served in a pub where the ceilings are still yellow from the smoke so the smell is absolutely ghastly
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptyk View Post
    What damage has Ison done to UKIP Richard?
    destroyed the largest branch in the West Midlands, that had 17 candidates in place for the 2010 local elections before he took over.........

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    What damage has Ison done to UKIP in the West Midlands? I can answer that one - NONE and to our massive detriment. The fact that Ison managed to salvage anything from the UKIP bloodbath that was Solihull says something. If it hadn’t have been for Ison WE would have defeated the Lib Dems and Maggie Throup would have been our Solihull MP. Although I sympathise with UKIP I feel that they shouldn’t have stood in such a marginal like Solihull. However, it is widely acknowledged that Ison did rather well at all of the hustings that he attended and even the Labour Candidate, Sarah Merrell, and the Lib Dem, Lorely Burt, told Ison at the hustings (where your former MEP Sinclaire was ejected as (s)he wasn’t wanted) that he was very accomplished at public speaking. Quite simply he kept us out.

    The fact that the poster 111 states that the number of candidates has fallen from 17 to 3 is crass as it is stupid. From reading the posts of 111 it appears that they are juvenile in their understanding and possibly a paid employee of Sinclaire. Let’s call them employee 1. The real fact is that Sinclaire tried to screw UKIP Solihull and Ison exposed her deceit. I have it from a reliable source that Mike Nattrass also highlighted this in an email AFTER Ison left Sinclaire employment. Therefore the number fell due to Sinclaire and her underhand tactics and not due to Ison’s involvement.

    I have been fortunate to have taken a few days away from Solihull and the forthcoming elections but I’m enjoying the sun in the South West and contemplating the issues on this forum and also considering an incident last week which angered me. Neil Watts, the SAMRA candidate AKA The Nikki Sinclaire Party, was delivering leaflets down the road where I live. As I was outside he approached me and asked me if I wanted to meet Ms Sinclaire. He was clearly promoting his employer (employee number 2 (as I understand Sinclaire likes to buy her supporters)) and was taken aback when I declined his offer. So many people simply don’t like Sinclaire and she doesn’t get it! [ snipped - potentially libellous ] Clearly he has a lot to learn. Earlier that week the Sinclaire issue was mentioned by Ms Spelman discussing the Gypsy Camp in Meriden and pointed out the fact that David McGrath had appeared as a paid employee of Sinclaire on her website whilst purporting to be the independent Chairman of RAID. So employee number three of Sinclaire eh and Sinclaire buying more votes?

    Now the most interesting issue that came to light was another employee of Sinclaire’s going by the name of Dollman. An ex member of UKIP Solihull has reliably informed me that Dollman is Sinclaire’s parents name and she has a brother living in Kent – Gillingham I understand but it’s not Gary. Oddly if you follow this link you will see that Sinclaire’s personal assistant is Charlotte Dollman and a quick search online suggest that she is between 16 and 20. Hmmm an EU assistant who is a possible member of her family being paid a hefty salary? What’s going on? [ snipped - potentially libellous ]

    The poster going by the name of Steve Morson appears to be getting very excited that he is being ignored but getting very aggressive in that he appears to want to be the next West Midlands UKIP MEP. I have tried to call Ison regarding the allegations which have been made against him by Mr Morson but Ison is refusing to take my calls. I do have an opportunity this weekend to get some more information on this point and if it is appropriate I will post it next week.
    Finally I note that the moderator Richard Allen has previously assisted the poster 111 in clarifying that he is not Steve Moron See Link Why, therefore does he not do the same with Independent UKIP as he ‘could’ have applied the same ‘answer’ to 111? See link

    I have been told by a member of the Hodge Hill branch that Sinclaire paid for some of the election leaflets for the 2010 General Election and this was acknowledged by the committee (which includes Richard Allen). It apparently has been confirmed in writing and I’m sure Mr Allen would want to personally congratulate Sinclaire on her generosity. Mr Allen, are you going to delete this as it's "too difficult to handle" or leave it unchanged? It has also been confirmed to me that Mr Allen is good friends with the [ snipped ] Josh O’Nyons – 111 by any chance? I do recall that the last time I did speak to Ison he told me that a tape recording did exist of O’Nyons at the meeting where O’Nyons and Sinclaire had a unanimous vote of no confidence made against them. On the tape O’Nyons firstly asks if the meeting was being taped (yes was the answer) and then on the tape it is clear that O’Nyons actually [ snipped] hence his resignation as detailed in the hyperlink above. So far as O’Nyons friendship’s go with the other young independence members, 111, sorry, O’Nyons might as well have leprosy – he is despised – naturally.

    So there we have it folks – it’s a double edged sword for us in Solihull. We desperately was Cameron to change but we need solidarity and with Allen, O’Nyons, Sinclaire, Morson etc trying to ruin UKIP’s chances what hope do we have? I’ll report on the Morson situation when I have accurate information.

    Sleep tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tory View Post
    What damage has Ison done to UKIP in the West Midlands? I can answer that one - NONE and to our massive detriment. The fact that Ison managed to salvage anything from the UKIP bloodbath that was Solihull says something. If it hadn’t have been for Ison WE would have defeated the Lib Dems and Maggie Throup would have been our Solihull MP. Although I sympathise with UKIP I feel that they shouldn’t have stood in such a marginal like Solihull. However, it is widely acknowledged that Ison did rather well at all of the hustings that he attended and even the Labour Candidate, Sarah Merrell, and the Lib Dem, Lorely Burt, told Ison at the hustings (where your former MEP Sinclaire was ejected as (s)he wasn’t wanted) that he was very accomplished at public speaking. Quite simply he kept us out.

    The fact that the poster 111 states that the number of candidates has fallen from 17 to 3 is crass as it is stupid. From reading the posts of 111 it appears that they are juvenile in their understanding and possibly a paid employee of Sinclaire. Let’s call them employee 1. The real fact is that Sinclaire tried to screw UKIP Solihull and Ison exposed her deceit. I have it from a reliable source that Mike Nattrass also highlighted this in an email AFTER Ison left Sinclaire employment. Therefore the number fell due to Sinclaire and her underhand tactics and not due to Ison’s involvement.

    I have been fortunate to have taken a few days away from Solihull and the forthcoming elections but I’m enjoying the sun in the South West and contemplating the issues on this forum and also considering an incident last week which angered me. Neil Watts, the SAMRA candidate AKA The Nikki Sinclaire Party, was delivering leaflets down the road where I live. As I was outside he approached me and asked me if I wanted to meet Ms Sinclaire. He was clearly promoting his employer (employee number 2 (as I understand Sinclaire likes to buy her supporters)) and was taken aback when I declined his offer. So many people simply don’t like Sinclaire and she doesn’t get it! [ snipped - potentially libellous ] Clearly he has a lot to learn. Earlier that week the Sinclaire issue was mentioned by Ms Spelman discussing the Gypsy Camp in Meriden and pointed out the fact that David McGrath had appeared as a paid employee of Sinclaire on her website whilst purporting to be the independent Chairman of RAID. So employee number three of Sinclaire eh and Sinclaire buying more votes?

    Now the most interesting issue that came to light was another employee of Sinclaire’s going by the name of Dollman. An ex member of UKIP Solihull has reliably informed me that Dollman is Sinclaire’s parents name and she has a brother living in Kent – Gillingham I understand but it’s not Gary. Oddly if you follow this link you will see that Sinclaire’s personal assistant is Charlotte Dollman and a quick search online suggest that she is between 16 and 20. Hmmm an EU assistant who is a possible member of her family being paid a hefty salary? What’s going on? [ snipped - potentially libellous ]

    The poster going by the name of Steve Morson appears to be getting very excited that he is being ignored but getting very aggressive in that he appears to want to be the next West Midlands UKIP MEP. I have tried to call Ison regarding the allegations which have been made against him by Mr Morson but Ison is refusing to take my calls. I do have an opportunity this weekend to get some more information on this point and if it is appropriate I will post it next week.
    Finally I note that the moderator Richard Allen has previously assisted the poster 111 in clarifying that he is not Steve Moron See Link Why, therefore does he not do the same with Independent UKIP as he ‘could’ have applied the same ‘answer’ to 111? See link

    I have been told by a member of the Hodge Hill branch that Sinclaire paid for some of the election leaflets for the 2010 General Election and this was acknowledged by the committee (which includes Richard Allen). It apparently has been confirmed in writing and I’m sure Mr Allen would want to personally congratulate Sinclaire on her generosity. Mr Allen, are you going to delete this as it's "too difficult to handle" or leave it unchanged? It has also been confirmed to me that Mr Allen is good friends with the [ snipped ] Josh O’Nyons – 111 by any chance? I do recall that the last time I did speak to Ison he told me that a tape recording did exist of O’Nyons at the meeting where O’Nyons and Sinclaire had a unanimous vote of no confidence made against them. On the tape O’Nyons firstly asks if the meeting was being taped (yes was the answer) and then on the tape it is clear that O’Nyons actually [ snipped ] hence his resignation as detailed in the hyperlink above. So far as O’Nyons friendship’s go with the other young independence members, 111, sorry, O’Nyons might as well have leprosy – he is despised – naturally.

    So there we have it folks – it’s a double edged sword for us in Solihull. We desperately was Cameron to change but we need solidarity and with Allen, O’Nyons, Sinclaire, Morson etc trying to ruin UKIP’s chances what hope do we have? I’ll report on the Morson situation when I have accurate information.

    Sleep tight.

    Captain Tory
    Wow! Very interesting titbits of info there, Cap'n. I shall look into them
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    A quite hilarious post from Captain Tory that borders on the utterly delusional. I would respond in length but for the fact that I have a busy day campaigning ahead. I must however respond to this comment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tory View Post
    I have been told by a member of the Hodge Hill branch that Sinclaire paid for some of the election leaflets for the 2010 General Election and this was acknowledged by the committee (which includes Richard Allen). It apparently has been confirmed in writing and I’m sure Mr Allen would want to personally congratulate Sinclaire on her generosity. Mr Allen, are you going to delete this as it's "too difficult to handle" or leave it unchanged?
    This is categorically false. I was the branch Treasurer at the time (I still am) and the Election Agent for both parliamentary candidates and all 8 local candidates so I am well aware of the exact finances of that election campaign. Our election leaflets were paid for by two individuals (myself and one of the parliamentary candidates).

    PS: I have snipped the parts of your post where you make accusations of criminal behaviour against Mr O'Nyons. As usual if you have evidence of such activity you should go to the police rather than making potentially libellous statements on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    You will doubtless disagree with me but I believe you're just making yourself look foolish Steve....
    See, that's bizarre!! That was said before as well! It was b******s then, and it remains so now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    As you can't make your mind up whether I'm from London or the West Midlands I'm happy for the mods to say (I assume they have this info) whether I have ever logged on this forum from the West Midlands and whether I usually log on from London. And just in case I'm happy for them to say whether I have ever logged on here from Belgium.
    Well, well, well! First, I don't give a toss about you. You post under an assumed name, and you claim to be linked with London. Who knows if you do / don't? Or cares? If you haven't the spine to use a real name, why should we believe your location? Second, can you mention 2 words to him / yourself / whatever: "LEAK TEST!" Gotcha! Belgium! LMAO!!! Oh, best yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    If that is sorted I may find time to respond to your post more fully later on.
    Please don't bother on my account. Interest threshold (lower limit) has been breached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tory View Post
    What damage has Ison done to UKIP in the West Midlands?
    Well, as an analogy, the tsunami in Japan recently was less destructive. I'm working on a tome, but the list is bloody exhausting.

    <snip of the worst drivel I've seen since...oh....I-UKIP. And that's going some.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tory View Post
    The poster going by the name of Steve Morson....
    I don't "go by" the name. It is my name, oh spineless one.

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    ... appears to be getting very excited that he is being ignored but getting very aggressive in that he appears to want to be the next West Midlands UKIP MEP.
    If people are ignoring me, why did the thread view count increase by 64 in the hour after I posted? Next MEP? I have no ambitions in that regard, and I told you ....I mean Ison, that. Several times. Although you....tut...I mean he never told me that he did, but told the rest of the region! MEP list? I'd say he'd be lucky to make craigslist here. However, even a broken clock is right twice a day, and you're right - I think - about a single MEP. After he's almost single-handedly trashed this region, I think a second MEP is somewhat unlikely next time. And as for member support, we have 1 less branch now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tory View Post
    I have tried to call Ison regarding the allegations which have been made against him by Mr Morson but Ison is refusing to take my calls. I do have an opportunity this weekend to get some more information on this point and if it is appropriate I will post it next week.
    Then he has some taste! Do you want his home number, he was there yesterday!? It's closely guarded, but he gave it to me Translation of the above: "I'm ****ed. I've really dropped one. I need to put heads together with "someone" to see how I can save my own ar$e." Perhaps the easiest way is to contact the person concerned - and show contrition. Or remorsefulness. But above all, apologia.

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    We desperately was Cameron to change but we need....
    ...a translation into English, by the look of it.

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    I’ll report on the Morson situation when I have accurate information.
    I don't see that this has delayed you before. As my solicitor says, "It's all grist to the mill!" If I were you, I'd make it accurate enough to stand in a court of law. God bless pro bono lawyers!

    In the meantime, rest assured that I'll sleep tight. The police aren't preparing any paperwork with my name on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Tory View Post
    Captain Tory
    ...and you want us to believe - with all this interest and inside "knowledge" of UKIP Solihull - that you're some anonymous local (Solihull) Conservative? And Ison is feeding you information - exclusively and endlessly? So that you can run to a PC and post on here? And you're interested in having a go at me, because of a few home truths as to why we're trying to rebuild the region? Ri-i-i-ght. (Isn't that aiding and abetting the enemy? Just curious.) Personally, I suspect Multiple Personality Disorder. Actually, that might be a useful defence when Inspector Knacker (or the process server) comes a-knockin' !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    If Mr Ison is laughing his head off it would be about the very silly discussion about him on here. I don't suppose he believes he has done any damage to UKIP in the West Midlands. If that were his belief he wouldn't think very highly of himself which I presume he does.

    I haven't asked you to reveal my identity, as you know.....<snip of spurious hysteria>

    ....If you and other mods are unwilling to help Mr Morson appreciate that which I would like him to appreciate I only hope his suggested legal action against Mr Ison doesn't try to involve me. Mr Morson will look like a vindictive fool, cause me probable destitution and Mr Ison will come up looking like roses. Which leads me back to the beginning about Mr Ison laughing his head off at this discussion.
    Please stop deluding yourself. What a drama queen, really! The way the 'style' changes in these posts, the account login details for I-UKIP must be passed around like a ticking parcel. If so, you have one thing in common; perhaps you can share the same meds!

    You post anonymously, and made a crashing fool of yourself, attempting to assail my loyalty to the party. I've no idea who you are or where you come from. I rarely read your posts.

    I am perfectly happy for this situation to remain unchanged, as I have no interest in you. Unless you have "....committed an act of defamation, performed with a malign intent, specifically to harm me or my reputation....." as my solicitor puts it. I've no reason to believe you have, o anonymous one. Happy days
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