The EDL are 'Scumbags'

[Robert Edwards]

There are pre-Islamic customs, Tony, and there are Islamic injunctions. You must not confuse the two. An Islamic injunction is that no female must be forced into marriage and must come of her own volition. Anything other is un-Islamic.
Aisha was untouched by the Prophet (PBUH) when she was very young.
Legal majority is established by evidence of puberty. Unless proved otherwise, boys of 12 or less and girls of nine or less are assumed to be minors. But both are assumed to have reached puberty by fifteen. As soon as puberty is established Muslims become full legal citizens, bound by the ibadah and with full criminal liability for their actions. They may also become married, sign binding contracts and take a full part in the life of the mosque.

[TheCally]

Robert Edwards



I've answered that in another thread. Now why don't you answer my question? Or is it a fact that you cannot? Non-Muslims are subjected to the law of an Islamic land (obviously!). That includes cutting off hands, stoning and all the grisly barbarity that you appear to approve of in your medieval religion.

Someone asked yourself recently about child sex. Robert what's your view of this and how does that apply to Mohammed and Aisha (or whatever that six-year-old girl's name was). Married at 6, sex at 9 if I remember correctly. Which is why it has been suggested that kiddy fiddlers are over-represented in that religion. Care to comment Robert?

What the catholic church is full of kiddie fiddlers?
what age Age of Aisha (ra) at time of marriage
its worth remembering that girls in england at the time were also entered in to marriage at about the same age 13/14

[TheCally]

Robert

Yes, I know they all did it. But can you answer me just one question: which Muslim country has become Muslim through peaceful conversion/adoption?

So far as I'm aware the number is less than one.

And how many became christian peaceful through peaceful conversion/adoption?

[The Guvnah]

You are talking of political events in history ... of wars and conquests. They all did it.

Tu quoque eh? But either way irrelevant as it is of course true that all nations have a beligerant streak but some more than others. The real point is; knowing that to be the case why on Earth should we invite it onto our bit of geography? Once again Robert, what's the payoff for us? When does it arrive? Are we allowed to renage on the proxied terms of whatever god foresaken contract/s we entered into that 'sanctioned' this disastrous arrangement? To deny us that right to object puts you on the same trajectory.

Under normal peaceful conditions ..... Islam is a religion of peace.

Well there's the first qualification at least. And it begs the questions...

a) What conditions qualify as normalcy in the eyes of islam?
b) Once identified, what level of 'normality' are required to be reached and maintained in order to satisfy their continual belicose demands for more.
c) What state does islam adopt when things aren't sufficiently 'normal'?

I for one would like to know.

[Robert Edwards]

Use your common sense, The Guvnah. You can work it out yourself.

[The Guvnah]

My browser will not allow me to rep anyone on this steam powered pc I'm using.
However come the revolution when I get an upgrade, yourself and a few other folk will be getting some valuable green brownie points (does that make sense)

Yeah, I upgraded to gas but I've still got the same problem, it keeps telling me to "spread some around"? Er... trying to...?

...even the Islamic Lord Haw Haw (-Guv-) is due some for some of his comical cartoons.

Now that was funny as indeed are Robert's works. Tip of the Guvnah's battered hardhat where it's due.

[Endangered]

Use your common sense, The Guvnah. You can work it out yourself.

What a pathetic non-answer.

[The Guvnah]

Use your common sense, The Guvnah. You can work it out yourself.

We have, and the backs of our collective envelopes show conclusions that are hemispherically opposite to yours. That unanswered issue of all that 'shanking' that's coming our way for instance?

[BNP happy]

It seems very like that this forum's apologist for Islamic beligerancy, kiddy fiddling, ethnic cleansing and general all round savagry is adopting the same get out that Marxists used to when people pointed at the Soviet Union or China: "Ah, but they're not really Marxist" and "Marxism doesn't actually say that". Implication: it's those nasty Russians and Chinese twisting things. A bit like the medieval barbarities are the work of savage tribespeople who are not following the Koran at all.

Yeah. Right!