The EDL are 'Scumbags'

[Robert Edwards]

I am afraid you have been very ill-informed. Bradford is, in fact, a local democratic authority subject to the rulings of a central authority at Westminster.

[Joely]

What's an Islamic state?

Is there one in Bradford?

The term Islamic state is misleading because it implies a national hegemony rather than a local one.

There are no Islamic states in Britain, but in certain parts of London, Bradford, Oldham and so on and so forth, there are indeed areas where all semblance of British culture, tradition, and heritage have been eradicated and duly replaced with an Islamic community adhering to their own way of life. The vast majority of the dispossessed indigenous working-class have become TV zombies, and have a sort of materialistic and superficial culture. With these two communities coexisting, there is bound to be hostility, tension, and indeed, race riots. This leads to a surge in crime, a lack of community cohesion and the local economy being hamstringed.

The alternative, forced integration and assimilation, destroys both the unique culture and heritage of the indigenous community and that of the alien community. In the end, there is nothing but a rootless ant-heap with no pride, loyalty or tradition. The only way of two distinctly opposite ethnicities peacefully working in canon is by the aforementioned method, which is only achieved by both groups dropping all of their historical roots.

Thus, immigration is fundamentally flawed. The only reason Islam is targeted specifically is because Islamic tradition is the furthest possible away from British tradition on the cultural rector scale. Therefore the ultimate failure of Islamic immigration is more noticeable.

[david H]

Excellent post, Joely.

[philjuliard]

To Edwards.

"I don't pretend anything, Philjuliard. You have quite a few issues but you contradict yourself so many times. You admit that not all Muslims groom young white girls. What about white Englishmen who prey on young girls? They are all over the Internet. Look at the lack of morality in many chav communities. They would sell their own children for a fix. Then there is the EDL which you say you think is wrong to chant abuse. Of course it is wrong to chant abuse ANYWHERE. There is no justification for it."

See what I wrote at post #16: "West Yorkshire Police is not prepared to do anything about paedo grooming in Dewsbury and Keighley. Lancashire Police is not prepared to do anything about problems with the same in Blackburn. Shropshire Police likewise with Telford and Shrewsbury.

Are all paedophiles Muslim? Nope. Are all Muslims paedophiles? Nope. No-one is suggesting such a thing.

But when serious problems are ignored to try and maintain 'community relations' something needs to be done."

Next.

Let me tell you honestly ... I detest anyone or any group that bases his or their 'politics' on religious hatred. The EDL is no different to the BNP on that score.
You know where I live. But I have lived in Hammersmith and I have lived in Bermondsey. Where I live now is my choice and has nothing to do with you.

Nothing to do with me per se, but an indictation that you may not really know how thing are in certain multiculi places.

Next.

the EDL post at the top of the page from 'born free', he says he is against an Islamic state. What the hell is he talking about? What Islamic state? I asked if there is one in Bradford but no answer. These people go on about Sharia law but it has nothing to do with them. Sharia law is for Muslims only. But I do know that Muslims are obliged by the Qur'an to honour and respect the laws and customs of the host country. This they do.
Religious intolerance is the enemy in our society because it affects all religious faiths, including my own. This is not politics. This is mob rule and mob law.

So, what about those who want to impose Sharia on us? Andy Choudary? What about the Muslims that want to impose their way of life on us, from the burning of The Satanic Verses onwards?

I believe the war on terror is bogus. Anti-terror laws are being used against everyone and are designed to erode our civil liberties. When was the last time a bomb went off in Britain? Don't tell me the police are catching all the 'Islamic terrorists' because there aren't any. A few silly copy cat 'jihadists' with a camcorder are a joke.

I also believe that the war is wrong but because I don't want our troops in a war when, because they are not Mussssslims, anything they do is wrong. Despite those peaceful blokes killing each other in the name of Sunni, Shia, etc before the invasions. Where were the Mussslim protests then...? During the Iran/Iraq war? During the gassing of the Kurds?

Why does the EDL fly the Israeli flag? Why does it fly the flag of an oppressive state that possesses nuclear missiles but seeks to deny them to others under threat of military attack? Why does the EDL fly the flag of an oppressive state that boasts it has every major capital in Europe targeted by these missiles and will send them if the European Union displeases them?

I am not a fan of Israel. But can you source the quote about Israel and the EU?


Wake up and smell the coffee. Mine's a Latte.

I think you should have had a few coffees before posting.

[david H]

philjuliard, What evidence have you for grooming in Shrewsbury? Telford yes, but Shrewsbury? There is a makeshift mosque there but not a large community.

[THE ACE OF SPADES]

Thank god for the EDL isn't it about time some group made a stand.Its very easy to rant on a keyboard but getting out on the streets and making your voice heard has got to be the way to go!The UAF make me laugh,thinking they occupy the moral highground!What a bunch of hypocrites!How can you claim to be against fascisim and then scream racist and nazi at anyone that opposes a cult like Islam?Surely nobody could be that thick and stupid to not be able to see this evil cult for what it is?This really is a wake up call to us all,do we really want to keep giving in to islam?Do you want your children to grow up under an islamic state in the near future?Then I say all power to the EDL lets get out and join the fight to win our country back!

[Endangered]

Have you noticed that both Vortex and Wowbanger are not up on here complaining of my cut and paste, as per usual? They must have been banned.

Did you complain to the forum administrators in order to get them banned?

[Wowbanger TIP]

Did you complain to the forum administrators in order to get them banned?

If he did it didn't work.

[Endangered]

If he did it didn't work.

He he he.
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[BratfudSteve]

Roberto old chap, you know jack schit about Bradford.