Change your approach

[Basil Brush]

They are following their various cultures, rather than the Koran.

In a sense, they are "cultural muslims" rather than followers of their book. Plus there is such a great deal of variety between 54 countries and every fourth person on the planet is muslim, I believe. So clearly, we can't cater to the hundred differences between them all, it's far easier for us to relate to them through the Koran, since ALL of them accept it as the word of God, without much argument.

It would be interesting to see Britain used Koranic reasoning in diplomacy with muslim countries...pretty radical!!!

Very naive indeed. Every day Christians are murdered in Egypt, Iraq and even Turkey. Islam incites the dumb and uneducated to violence and murder. Please travel to Saudi Arabia and preach there, I am sure you will be accommodated.

[Bradygg]

So where are all of the Christian Churches and clerics in Saudi Arabia?

Why is it that anyone who converts FROM Islam is likely to be executed in some countries?

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What holds a christian to the middle-east? Nothing. We don't dwell on location like Islam and Jewish cultures, nor should we. We are to be fishers of men, therefore we are where there are men.

[Bradygg]

Very naive indeed. Every day Christians are murdered in Egypt, Iraq and even Turkey. Islam incites the dumb and uneducated to violence and murder. Please travel to Saudi Arabia and preach there, I am sure you will be accommodated.

We're killed everywhere...

[ANGLO-STAFFS]

We're killed everywhere...

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So are dogs and Dolphins!

[Sheepy]

The Koran is

Pro Family unit
Pro Preventing Crime
Pro Freedom of religion/belief (2:256) (10:99, 88:21-22) (18:29)
Pro Banning Prostitution
Pro Criminalizing marital adultery
Pro Quickie 9 month divorces with alimony
Pro Respecting parents
Pro Modesty
Pro Self Defence, not Aggression
Pro life
Pro Charity
Pro Social Welfare
Pro maintaining Ecological balance
Anti Economic exploitation by charging interest
Anti Pornography
Anti Drugs
Pro Racial/Ethnic Equality - this is the obvious one that the BNP will object to!

Where do you stand on these issues? Is there in fact overlap between Christianity and the Koran?

Its all Religious bollox.Is where I stand.Sky fairies are for lost Sheep.

[Bradygg]

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So are dogs and Dolphins!

We're killed no mater where we live. It's simply put that no mater where we are, there is violence in our face. Don't blame it all on a single religion.

[Plutonium]

So where are all of the Christian Churches and clerics in Saudi Arabia?

Saudi Arabia is an example of a state in which non-Muslim religion is effectively forbidden. However, it is the exception; Christians are tolerated in most predominantly Muslim countries, and indeed in some, such as Egypt and Syria, they are a large minority. Christians and Jews are regarded by Muslims as 'peoples of the book' who follow monotheistic religions that preceded Islam in terms of revelation.

[Plutonium]

Of course there is an overlap. Don't forget that when Mohammad started to write the Koran most of the Middle East was Christian.

That was before they were offered the rather stark choice of convert to Islam or have your family wiped out.
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It is true that Islam was spread by military conquest, and those following polytheistic or pagan beliefs had to convert or face death. However, Christians and Jews were tolerated, and many converted voluntarily to Islam.

One essential feature of Islam that attracted converts was its simplicity. For years, Christians had been embroiled in esoteric debates about the nature of Christ and the doctrine of the "Trinity", and many groups in the Middle East, such as the Copts and Nestorians, disagreed with the so-called 'orthodox' line on these issues, such as Christ being fully God and fully man, and simultaneously the Son of God and God the Son. Islam had a very simple doctrine - there is one God and Mohammad is his prophet. That was attractive to many who had tired of all the arcane disputes within Christianiry.

[Bradygg]

Saudi Arabia is an example of a state in which non-Muslim religion is effectively forbidden. However, it is the exception; Christians are tolerated in most predominantly Muslim countries, and indeed in some, such as Egypt and Syria, they are a large minority. Christians and Jews are regarded by Muslims as 'peoples of the book' who follow monotheistic religions that preceded Islam in terms of revelation.

It's true. I've met a few christian missionaries under Islamic rule, they seemed to be doing fine. I've heard of extremists coming after some of them every now and then, but they're definitely there.

[LightofTruth]

If you need a better insight into the differences between Christianity and Islam. Look under 'immigration' thread, under heading 'Islamisation of Britain' (last few pages)