David Cameron on Bloody Sunday report: “I am deeply sorry”

[philjuliard]

Though if the majority of people of a country wants to form a union with another, you would ignore those who disagreed with it? Blatant hypocrisy!

Yes, because retaining control over parts of a country when giving independence, to yield to the wishes of people to remain, is logicallly and legally different from a binch of people suddenly deciding they want to be governed from elsewhere.

In the former case, a compromise has to be struck to try and keep as many people happy as possible with the solution. If that means countries have to split, so be it.

You seem to have me down as some sort of Unionist. I am not, I want an independent England. Northern Ireland is a drain and one that Dublin would **** itself if it had to fund.

[Northumbrian]

One of the main arguments for Irish independence was that it was wrong for a country to be governed by a country that the majority did not want to be governed by. The same case applies to Northern Ireland.

The majority being all of Ireland. The majority were ignored. Call that right? How can be right for a government to say for centuries that Ireland is a country, then at the last minute say it is, except for....

And what about the counties of Fermanagh and Tyrone? The majority wanted independence, but the British government worked out the largest area they could get way with whilst still keeping a Unionist majority. Cynical or what?

[Northumbrian]

You seem to have me down as some sort of Unionist. I am not, I want an independent England. Northern Ireland is a drain and one that Dublin would **** itself if it had to fund.

Well it would be easier to get an independent England if we hadn't retained a part of Ireland.

[George Ireland]

Well it would be easier to get an independent England if we hadn't retained a part of Ireland.

I doubt it, currently it seems that a great amount of support for English Independence (although not all of it) comes from the economic strain that the other nations in the UK cost the taxpayer, if there was no Northern Ireland, there would (possibly) be less support for English independence, if you wanted to gain support for English independence, the ideal way would be to send massive amount of money to everywhere in the UK except England.

[philjuliard]

The majority being all of Ireland. The majority were ignored. Call that right? How can be right for a government to say for centuries that Ireland is a country, then at the last minute say it is, except for....

And what about the counties of Fermanagh and Tyrone? The majority wanted independence, but the British government worked out the largest area they could get way with whilst still keeping a Unionist majority. Cynical or what?

Jesus Christ.

You look at what the majority want in a given geographical area. You call it cynical, anyone else sensible.

BIASED.

[philjuliard]

I doubt it, currently it seems that a great amount of support for English Independence (although not all of it) comes from the economic strain that the other nations in the UK cost the taxpayer, if there was no Northern Ireland, there would (possibly) be less support for English independence, if you wanted to gain support for English independence, the ideal way would be to send massive amount of money to everywhere in the UK except England.

Spot on. It's time to go our separate ways.

[Purging The Droid]

The majority of our people in Northern Ireland are Protestant hard working people. They have morals and a proper work ethic. We must defend their right to be British and their need to be included within our Kingdom.

[rjt]

The majority of our people in Northern Ireland are Protestant hard working people. They have morals and a proper work ethic. We must defend their right to be British and their need to be included within our Kingdom.

Quite agree with you.

[TedHeathFan]

Red Rackham,
you talk about "democracy" but these are the facts. The MAJORITY of Ireland voted for a seperate state. The North east Irish refused to accept the democratic wishes of the people and went to war. The NE Irish knew that even in Ulster they were not a majority so they removed Donegal from "New Ulster" so they could make a fake majority.

County Donegal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

To say that the republicans have no democratic mandate is correct to some extent but clearly not correct if Donegal was also allowed to vote on what happens to Ulster.

the whole Donegal Derry situation is UK madness and the UK should really apologise for doin it. Just read Wikipedia to see how mad it is:

"
The Partition of Ireland in the early 1920s was to have a massive direct impact on County Donegal. Partition cut the county off, economically and administratively, from Derry, which had acted for centuries as the county's main port, transport hub and financial centre. Derry, together with West Tyrone, was henceforward in a new, different jurisdiction officially called Northern Ireland. Partition also meant that County Donegal was now almost entirely cut off from the rest of the jurisdiction it now found itself in, the new independent state called the Irish Free State, known since April 1949 as the Republic of Ireland. Only a few miles of the county is physically connected by land to the rest of the Republic. The existence of this 'border', cutting Donegal off from her natural hinterlands in Derry City and West Tyrone, has greatly exacerbated the economic difficulties of the county since partition. The county's economy is particularly susceptible, just like that of Derry City, to the currency fluctuations of the Euro against Sterling.
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[Red Rackham]

Listen Ted, I don't give a damn what happened in 1920 or 1949 because I wasn't there, it was out of my hands for christ sake you people are all the same, you sit in the comfort of your face armchair and pontificate about history, you have absolutely no idea what went on other than what you saw on the TV. I'll tell you something Ted, until recently I never came across any terrorists who murdered women and children as easilly as the IRA. They were and will remain for all eternity cowardly murdering ****.