On the back foot.

[Wowbanger TIP]

What?

This is going to be dragged through the courts for years = constant publicity

It doesn't matter 'who's involved', it's like the court case before, another knee jerk reaction from the state that will backfire on them?

What good is publicity if it's negative? if that worked you would have an IRA government now. Any publicity is only good publicity until you are universally known, after which it's harmful.

Being dragged through the courts over and over again until you are banned and bankrupt is not a winning strategy. Especially over something as mindlessly stupid as the colour bar.

[Vortex]

What good is publicity if it's negative? if that worked you would have an IRA government now. Any publicity is only good publicity until you are universally known, after which it's harmful.

Being dragged through the courts over and over again until you are banned and bankrupt is not a winning strategy. Especially over something as mindlessly stupid as the colour bar.

I was of the opinion that Sinn Fein/IRA had achieved many of their objectives, especially as their two leading lights Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams are esconced in the NI Assembly in powerful positions.

[The Wanderer]

if that worked you would have an IRA government now.

Oh dear. You obviously missed Siin Feins near domination of the NI Assembley.

[Wowbanger TIP]

I was of the opinion that Sinn Fein/IRA had achieved many of their objectives, especially as their two leading lights Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams are esconced in the NI Assembly in powerful positions.

The real IRA would not endorse that position I would suggest.

I don't see how having the BNP publicly flogged to death for idiot crude racism is going to advance their cause. Murderers are not seen as martyrs.

Tzu Sun say:

"He who chooses the time and place of the battle will be victorious".

Griffin has been backed into a corner through his own idiocy and if he doesn't break out of it the state will break him and his Party with him.

[Wowbanger TIP]

Thanks Vortex, the scary thing is I actually enjoy it .

LOL as for you Spencer accusing me of being over optimistic that is not true at all. Through the election campaign I never made any predictions on how many seats we will take as I knew it would be tight, I always maintained I would be happy with 1. At the end of the night we ended up with 2.

I deal with the facts that I have at hand, and I am lucky enough to find myself in a position to see other information and details that others cant see.

You seem to serve no purpose other than to de-motivate and dampen the spirits of good decent Nationalist, you are the ever pessimist and its people like you that Nationalism doesn't need.

After repeated claims that the party is bankrupt and that we were failing in fund-raising despite me saying otherwise people still maintained their stupid claims but yet again I am being proven right.

So why don't you get off your **** and start doing something good for the cause!

I predicted they would get a seat, but it would be a close run thing and I'm happy that my assessment was borne out.

I don't remember any BNP fans predicting UKIP would so well which I have consistently done for years. Nor do I remember them saying they would squeak in on a static vote against a declining turn out.

This is typical of the loyalist mindset, these elections offer a direct comparision against which to judge the Parties performance, unchanged for five long hard years. In the meantime the economy has been wrecked and the HoC proved to be a nest of common thieves and yet the BNP has made no progress at all. What more do you want?

Plot the Party's trajectory and the result is failure which ever way you cut it and in all conceivable circumstances. That's not pessimism, that's reality.

I am not a pessimist, give me one chance in 100 and those are acceptable odds, but your asking people simply to commit a futile suicide and you ain't going to get many takers.

Your job is to get those odds and the best thing you can do towards it is stop drinking the Welshpool Kool Aid and try and form an objective opinion of how you can change the situation. Its not hard to see what you've got to do is it?

[blueblood1920]

Oh Spencer why dont you just give up.

The party will only face any costs if we LOSE the legal case, which seems unlikely due to the clear exemptions.

[Wowbanger TIP]

Oh dear. You obviously missed Siin Feins near domination of the NI Assembley.

I was not aware you lived in Belfast.

[Wowbanger TIP]

Oh Spencer why dont you just give up.

The party will only face any costs if we LOSE the legal case, which seems unlikely due to the clear exemptions.

Do you think your dealing with idiots? They wrote this law with half a mind of doing exactly this. You got lucky in Leeds, the state was forced to act by the BBC before it was ready, now it's payback.

There is no way the CPS would allow themselves to be humiliated again.

Barnes might have a different view, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

[The Wanderer]

I was not aware you lived in Belfast.

You don't have to live in Belfast to be aware that Sinn Fein are currently the second largest party in Northern Ireland. The election results from 2007 and the make up of the assembley can be viewed here.

Northern Ireland Assembly election, 2007 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[The Wanderer]

Do you think your dealing with idiots? They wrote this law with half a mind of doing exactly this. You got lucky in Leeds, the state was forced to act by the BBC before it was ready, now it's payback.

There is no way the CPS would allow themselves to be humiliated again.

Barnes might have a different view, but I wouldn't put my money on it.

Do you think your dealing with idiots? They wrote this law with half a mind of doing exactly this.

Really? Why's it taken them so long to take any action then?