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    I think to answer the origins of us humans is something that none of us is meant to know. I believe that there is a possability that all faiths believe in the same arbitrary God in whatever form you may call him. The other thing is that there is a lot of contridictions in the bible that anyone can point out. Let's many people can say the sam of the Koran or any religious dogma. Where did life come from then? Out of then air? There must be a God then to produce life and even if he might have died there at one time was a God or the equalavent of one. Faith is something you cannot rationalize no matter how much you would like to know the answers.
    Humans are confusing to predict as our origins can atest to. I think evoloution was definetly done with the lower beings. Many things in this life onfuse us and have more than one meaning to every individual with different experiences and education. So, the resurrection of a cat might not seem a lot to answer for the quest ofa God, but a substantual one. What is the saying " God moves in mysterous ways?" The resurrection of dead people contrary to others peoples points of vies did happen. There were many people in medevil days that died momentarily like in a semi-coma that the doctors back then didn't know about. This is why some older coffins in Europe had a long iron tube to alert someone about a ring in case if they were still alive. What if by chance that happened in the bible? Look in between the lines to find the answer in your self. I am tired of wars and other excuses though because of your religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garth View Post
    I need not explain anything. I don't believe in the almighty God, creator of heaven and earth as you do. Simple. But I do believe in evolution. Its more akin to the real world, something which you seem to be out of touch with.
    So why didn't you say that in the first place instead of running around like a headless chicken?

    Can you explain to me why the theory of evolution is more akin to the real world and explain the reasons why you personally believe in it?

    You mentioned earlier about some so called 'facts', what facts are these?

    I must say, you're fun to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarka View Post
    So why didn't you say that in the first place instead of running around like a headless chicken?

    Can you explain to me why the theory of evolution is more akin to the real world and explain the reasons why you personally believe in it?

    You mentioned earlier about some so called 'facts', what facts are these?

    I must say, you're fun to play with.
    The Attenborough programme went a long way to explain and link Darwins theories to modern day man. I don't expect you to take them as 'gospel' but it certainly goes some way to explaining how man came to be.

    As far as 'God' the creator of earth goes, the programme rather contradicts the Adam and Eve theory don't you think?

    And when Noah built an ark, please tell me, why he didn't take on board the duck billed platipus? I know it's not the prettiest of animals but serioiusly how on earth did that animal come about?

    Just having some fun of course, I like to play around you see.....

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    ??? ......... are you stuck?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Bane View Post
    I think to answer the origins of us humans is something that none of us is meant to know. I believe that there is a possability that all faiths believe in the same arbitrary God in whatever form you may call him. The other thing is that there is a lot of contridictions in the bible that anyone can point out. Let's many people can say the sam of the Koran or any religious dogma. Where did life come from then? Out of then air? There must be a God then to produce life and even if he might have died there at one time was a God or the equalavent of one. Faith is something you cannot rationalize no matter how much you would like to know the answers.
    Humans are confusing to predict as our origins can atest to. I think evoloution was definetly done with the lower beings. Many things in this life onfuse us and have more than one meaning to every individual with different experiences and education. So, the resurrection of a cat might not seem a lot to answer for the quest ofa God, but a substantual one. What is the saying " God moves in mysterous ways?" The resurrection of dead people contrary to others peoples points of vies did happen. There were many people in medevil days that died momentarily like in a semi-coma that the doctors back then didn't know about. This is why some older coffins in Europe had a long iron tube to alert someone about a ring in case if they were still alive. What if by chance that happened in the bible? Look in between the lines to find the answer in your self. I am tired of wars and other excuses though because of your religion.
    Good post!

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    Happy 200th birthday, Charles Darwin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarka View Post
    Ever heard of free will?
    Doesn't make any difference because if you knew every variable then you would be able to predict the outcome with 100% accuracy, its called infallibility. Moreover to be perfect and therefore met the criteria set out for being God you would have to be infallible. See Descartes.

    Therefore:

    A. This existence can not be a test to establish the quality of a soul.

    B. If it was what kind of shitty ******* would engage in it? Spartan morality at its worst.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." -C.S. Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarka View Post
    I watched the Darwin tree of life on TV the other night and he definitely said we evolved from monkeys. A theory I don't buy into.
    I wholeheartedly agree with you Tarka. If you were told that we evolved for monkeys that is rubbish, and you are right not to believe it. Evolution says that we share a common ancestor, which given the mountains of proof provided by many scientific disciplines we would be foolish not to accept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Bane View Post
    I think to answer the origins of us humans is something that none of us is meant to know. I believe that there is a possability that all faiths believe in the same arbitrary God in whatever form you may call him. The other thing is that there is a lot of contridictions in the bible that anyone can point out. Let's many people can say the sam of the Koran or any religious dogma. Where did life come from then? Out of then air? There must be a God then to produce life and even if he might have died there at one time was a God or the equalavent of one. Faith is something you cannot rationalize no matter how much you would like to know the answers.
    Humans are confusing to predict as our origins can atest to. I think evoloution was definetly done with the lower beings. Many things in this life onfuse us and have more than one meaning to every individual with different experiences and education. So, the resurrection of a cat might not seem a lot to answer for the quest ofa God, but a substantual one. What is the saying " God moves in mysterous ways?" The resurrection of dead people contrary to others peoples points of vies did happen. There were many people in medevil days that died momentarily like in a semi-coma that the doctors back then didn't know about. This is why some older coffins in Europe had a long iron tube to alert someone about a ring in case if they were still alive. What if by chance that happened in the bible? Look in between the lines to find the answer in your self. I am tired of wars and other excuses though because of your religion.

    There are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy and 100 billion galaxies and these have been flying about for 14 billion years. Life might be a long shot, intelligent life a hole in one at 5 miles but given enough attempts even long odds become certainties.

    Plus of course if the strawberries had not lined up on the galactic fruit machine then you wouldn't be around to ask the question "" where does life come from". Therefore because there has to be life to ask the question then odds are irrelevant no matter how infinitesimal.

    By the way sure people can "die" and then be resuscitated but not after 3 days, I think 11 minutes is the longest trip ever taken to the other side with a return ticket. Anyone who has gone longer than say half an hour wasn't dead in the first place and therefore there was no miracle. If JC wasn't a stiff then he didn't come back to life and the vey basis of Christianity is therefore totally wrong.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." -C.S. Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I wholeheartedly agree with you Tarka. If you were told that we evolved for monkeys that is rubbish, and you are right not to believe it. Evolution says that we share a common ancestor, which given the mountains of proof provided by many scientific disciplines we would be foolish not to accept.
    If that common ancestor was around today we would call it a monkey, or an Ape if we were feeling a bit PC. Moreover Africans would have called it bushmeat and eaten it.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." -C.S. Lewis.

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