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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Bennett View Post
    Jack, perhaps you would like to share with us the descent of man starting with the first cell that came to life around 4.5 million years ago.

    On second thoughts, let me make it easier for you.

    Name any ONE of our evolutionary ancestors.

    Or come to think of it, let me make it even easier.

    Name any creatrure, past or present.

    Then give me the name of its immediate antecedent from which it evolved.

    You know, like 'giraffe' - evolved from _____.

    Or 'chamelion' - evolved from _____.

    Or 'octopus' - evolved from _____.

    That shouldn't be too difficult for an evolution-believer

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    Caterpillar to butterfly Tony and they still do every year.

    Ape and Man and some revert back regularly don't you think

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    Default Voltaire's quote about the Bible - and others

    The Voltaire quote is in this list:

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    The Bible - Quotes from Famous Men

    Napoleon, Emperor of the French (1804-1814), 1769-1821

    “The gospel is not a book; it is a living being, with an action, a power, which invades every thing that opposes its extension, behold! It is upon this table: This book, surpassing all others. I never omit to read it, and every day with some pleasure.”

    Pascal, French philosopher and mathematician, developed the modern theory of probability, 1623-1662

    “I prefer to believe those writers who get their throats cut for what they write.”

    Isaac Newton, English mathematician and scientist, 1642-1727

    “We account the scriptures of God to be the most sublime philosophy. I find more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history whatsoever.”

    Voltaire, French infidel, died 1778

    - said that within 100 years of his time, Christianity would be swept away from existence and pass into the obscurity of history.

    -Yet 50 years after his death, the Geneva Bible Society used his house and printing press to produce stacks of Bibles.

    Robert Dick Wilson, fluent in more than 45 languages and dialects

    Concluded after a lifetime study of the Old Testament:

    “I may add that the result of my 45 years of study of the Bible has led me all the time to a firmer faith that in the Old Testament, we have a true historical account of the history of the Israelite people.”

    Sir Ambrose Flemming, British electrical engineer and inventor, 1849-1945

    “We must not build on the sands of an uncertain and everchanging science…but upon the rock of inspired Scriptures.”

    President Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States

    “Of the many influences that have shaped the United States into a distinctive nation and people, none may be said to be more fundamental and enduring than the Bible.”

    President George Washington, First President of the United States

    “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible.”

    Immanuel Kant, German idealist philosopher, 1724-1804

    “I believe that the existence of the Bible is the greatest benefit to the human race. Any attempt to belittle it, I believe, is a crime against humanity.”

    Abraham Lincoln, 16th President of the United States, 1809-1865

    “I am busily engaged in the study of the Bible. I believe it is God’s word because it finds me where I am.”

    “I believe the Bible is the best gift God has ever given to man. All the good of the Savior of the world is communicated to us through the Book.”

    Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, 1856-1924

    “When you have read the Bible, you know it is the word of God, because it is the key to your heart, your own happiness, and your own duty.”

    Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, 1858-1919

    “A thorough understanding of the Bible is better than a college education.”

    Daniel Webster, American politician and noted orator, 1782-1852

    “I believe that the Bible is to be understood and received in the plain and obvious meaning of its passages; for I cannot persuade myself that a book intended for the instruction and conversion of the whole world should cover its true meaning in any such mystery and doubt that none but critics and philosophers can discover it.”

    “Education is useless without the Bible.”

    Professor M. Montiero-Williams, former Boden prof. Of Sanskrit who spent 42 years studying Eastern books

    Said comparing them with the Bible:

    “Pile them, if you will, on the left side of your study table; but place your own Holy Bible on the right side–all by itself, all alone–and with a wide gap between them. For…there is a gulf between it and the so-called sacred books of the East which severs the one from the other utterly hopelessly, and a forever…a veritable gulf which cannot be bridged over by any science of religious thought.”

    John Wesley, British religious leader who founded Methodism, 1703-1791

    “This book had to be written by one of three people: good men, bad men or God. It couldn’t have been written by good men because they said it was inspired by the revelation of God. Good men don’t lie and deceive. It couldn’t have been written by bad men because bad men would not write something that would condemn themselves. It leaves only one conclusion. It was given by divine inspiration of God.”

    Werner Keller

    “In view of the overwhelming mass of authentic and well-attested evidence now available, as I thought of the skeptical criticism which from the eighteenth century onward would fain have demolished the Bible altogether, there kept hammering in my brain this one sentence: The Bible is right after all.”

    John Lea

    From 'The Greatest Book in the World':

    “It seems strange that the text of Shakespeare which has been in existence less than 208 years should be far more uncertain and corrupt than that of the N.T., now over 18 centuries old, during nearly fifteen of which it existed only in manuscript…with perhaps a dozen or twenty exceptions, the text of every verse in the N.T., may be said to be so far settled by general consent of scholars, that any dispute to its readings must relate rather to interpretation of the words than to any doubts respecting the words themselves. But in every one of Shakespeare’s 37 plays there are probably a 100 headings still in dispute, a portion of which materially affect the meaning of the passages in which they occur.”

    Bernard Ramm

    “Jews preserved it as no other manuscript has ever been preserved. With their massora they kept tabs on every letter, syllable, word and paragraph. They had special classes of men within their culture whose sole duty was to preserve and transmit these documents with practically perfect fidelity–scribes, lawyers, massorettes.”

    “In regard to the New Testament, there are about 13,000 manuscripts, complete and incomplete, in Greek and other languages, that have survived from antiquity.”

    “A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put.”

    “No other book has been so chopped, knifed, sifted, scrutinized, and vilified. What book on philosophy or religion or psychology or belles lettres of classical or modern times has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible? With such venom and skepticism? With such thoroughness and erudition? Upon every chapter, line and tenet?”

    “ The Bible is still loved by millions, read by millions, and studied by millions.”


    Horace Greeley, Editor and Politician

    “It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible-reading people. The principles of the Bible are the groundwork of human freedom.”

    William Foxwell Albright, American archaeologist and educator known for his excavations of Biblical sites, 1891-1971

    “The Bible towers in content above all earlier religious literature; and it towers just as impressively over all subsequent literature in the direct simplicity of its message and the catholicity of its appeal to men of all lands and times.”

    Prof. Edward Meyer, University of Berlin, one of the greatest living authorities on ancient history

    Concerning the Bible said:

    “…There is no ground at all for refusing to accept these oldest traditions as historically trustworthy in all essentials, and in their chronological ordering of history.”

    Francis Bacon, English statesman and writer, 1597

    Called the Bible:

    “The book of God’s word.”

    Victor Hugo, French writer, 1802-1885

    “England has two books; the Bible and Shakespeare. England made Shakespeare, but the Bible made England.”

    Goethe, German writer and scientist, 1749-1832

    “I look upon all four Gospels as thoroughly genuine, for there shines forth from them the reflected splendor of a sublimity proceeding from Jesus Christ.”

    Sir Frederic Kenyon, Director and principal librarian of the British Museum, foremost expert on ancient manuscripts:

    “The interval between the dates of original composition (of the N.T.) and the earliest extant evidence becomes so small as to be in fact negligible and the foundation for any doubt that the Scriptures have come down to us substantially as they were written has now been removed; both the authenticity and the general integrity of the books of the N.T. may be regarded as firmly established.”

    Time Magazine

    "Reputable scholars now believe that the New Testament account is reliable history.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Bennett View Post
    You mean: corrupted and duplicated 'new information', rather like the sentence:

    "Auntie Agatha has a green green hat", where the second 'green' is new information, but the sentence as a whole is clearly corrupted.

    Can you please name one specific example where a 'duplication mutation' (e.g. two heads) has survived and produced a permanwent change in any species?

    Just one example will do, gestalt

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    What about a little boy who grew 2 faces when he got to old to be significant "Tony Bennett" for example he grew 2 didn't he?

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    Default Which came first? - the caterpillar or the butterfly?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrachenScroatum View Post
    Caterpillar to butterfly Tony and they still do every year.
    Caterpillar and butterfly are the same creature.

    Show me the antecedents of the caterpillar/butterfly, tell me how this fantastic creation could have developed from a non-living cell over 500 million years ago.

    There are few creatures apart from the caterpillar/butterfly which better illustrate the Creator's genius.

    By the way, according to evolution, which came first...

    The caterpillar or the butterfly?

    The chicken or the egg?

    Evolution cannot answer such questions

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    Default Mutations don't normally survive; where they do, they are harmful

    Quote Originally Posted by DrachenScroatum View Post
    What about a little boy who grew 2 faces when he got to old to be significant 'Tony Bennett' for example he grew 2 didn't he?
    But did that mutation survive into another generation?

    NO.

    The mutation fizzled out

    It didn't provide evolutionary development.

    No mutation can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Bennett View Post
    But did that mutation survive into another generation?

    NO.

    The mutation fizzled out

    It didn't provide evolutionary development.

    No mutation can

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    Thank god it wont, with inbred species like that failure to evolve is a blessing.

    Ape and Man is the only logical explanation to evolution and they both still co-exist on the earth, but the ape will no doubt out live man because they aren't a species of greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Bennett View Post
    Evolution is a myth and a fairy story unsupported by any evidence and believed in by many people primarily because they do not want to accept living by the rules determined by their Creator.

    "He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not" (John 1 vv. 10-11)

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    Oh, Right. I shall have to go and have a think about that. I could be sometime.

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    Default Tony the Tiger

    I think that Tony is right in almost everything he has talked about. The dinosaurs for example were thought to be dragons and other greek mythical creatures. The humans weren't educated enough nor exposed enough to dragons obviously. Maybe Dragon was just another word for dinosaur like flying dinosaurs can be seen as flying dragons. Some other mythical creatues like pegases cannot be fully explained though but no matter it has nothing to do with this thread. Mmmmm, my main question is not nessessarily food but water on a boat. May people have suspected thatNoah was a drunk. Think about if you will when those days people only drunk liquor, spirits, beer, ale, etc to have the only clean water availible to them like pirates. Also, the world I think has been around for longer than six thousand years look at frozen remains of bodies in tar pits, pyramids, etc. There was a frozen nomad found over ten thousand years ago, and I know you might think well the carbon dating. I don't think that the math adds up.
    The morals have been crushed in this world. Matter of fact we never had any so it's out in the open now isn't it? Yes, all humans are evil beings for thier own survival at heart and nobody elses including Jesus Christ. Think about it we all need to eat, have shelter and consume water with keeping ourselves healthy. We are designed to live in this world to at our own benefit. This is naturally greed to bloom easily can be seen on the gro0wing problem with disease, poverty, sickness, etc. The other thing I would point out is that is a reason for the world's problems. If we didn't talk about religion as a reason for wars then what do we have then? We have money to moral bankruptcies beeing hailed rather than religious dogima. I think that " God is a mythical creature that us humans have created out of our own imagaination because of fear of our own mortality" that is my own quote. I seriously believe that nobody trusts the bible one hundred percent because hwe wrote the book and translated it into a lot of different languages. The translations are fuzzy at best and understand has died long ago. I believe that thee is a deist sort of being above us and below us that is the same being with a bi-polar understanding of confusion that vigilantly watches onto us with hope, anger, remorse and etc. Think about the bible like Satan and God, but God has ultimate power overall beings including luscifer. Free Will I believe that is why we are here to discover something that cannot otherwise grasp.

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    And whats all this about the snake talked to Adam and told him to nosh the apple? How can a snake talk! They dont have vocal chords let alone brains.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taddy Porter View Post
    And whats all this about the snake talked to Adam and told him to nosh the apple? How can a snake talk! They dont have vocal chords let alone brains.
    They have more brains than some people, though.

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