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    May I introduce the Popular Alliance, a UK registered political party, with a wide ranging agenda of common sense policies, of which the UK's membership of the EU seems to be a common denominator amongst the causes of many problems that our nation faces.

    Popular Alliance was formed in 2005 by a group of people who felt that the main and fringe political parties did not speak for them nor reflect their views. In fact, we were faced by a choice of 3 main Liberal parties with identical agenda or a range of single-issue groups who had some good messages but could not challenge in an election without a cross-the-board agenda of policies.

    Popular Alliance is exactly that - a coming together of the common sense from left, right, centre and even green areas. Our members come from all backgrounds and our one common goal is respect. We have mostly been members of other parties and we all despise the infighting and the undemocratic, elite-table systems. If a group of people cannot respect each other across a table, how can they ask anyone else to respect their party and policies - its hypocritical and puts many people off politics at a time when our nation really needs to speak out to the conceited fools dragging our country down and refusing to listen to the tax payers.

    Popular Alliance believe in :-

    A Country where Hard Work, Achievement and Honesty are Rewarded and not Crime, Fraud and Idleness.

    A Tax System That Encourages Work and Discourages the Benefits Culture.

    A Criminal Justice System that Truly Discourages and Punishes Crime.

    An Education System That Delivers the Skills and Behaviours Required by the Country.

    A Country Which Controls Immigration through Sound Policies and Firmly Delivering Them.

    A Full Debate and Referendum on our Continued Membership of the European Union.

    A Welfare System That Supports the Needy But Not Idleness or Fraud.

    A Country Committed to Sound Environmental, Energy and Recycling Policies.

    A Country That Preserves It's Christian Heritage, Whilst Allowing Complete Freedom Of Belief Under The Law.

    Freedom in Speaking Up For The British Way Of Life without Fear that it is not Politically Correct.


    Some people say that a smaller, newish party is wasting its time and often vote splitting. We are proud to reply that our views, policies and blogs are regularly quoted, word-for-word by all 3 main parties when they require some good common sense to get themselves out of a self-dug hole, and our words often crop up in several daily newspaper columns - again, word-for-word. As a growing party, the next step is to have those words credited to the originators and to start gaining note for them.

    We welcome both Full and Associated members and everyone has a say in forming policies. Please visit Popular Alliance - Home and Popular Alliance Staffordshire - www.popularalliancestaffs.org | Home & Aims to see what we stand for. Who knows, you might even agree !!

    Thanks for your precious time
    Craig Chapman
    Founder Member & Treasurer

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    Popular Alliance was formed in 2005 by a group of people who felt that the main and fringe political parties did not speak for them nor reflect their views.
    You mean they didn't reflect Brian Buxton's views !

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    The Popular Alliance are, in short, another addition to the already burgeoning 'I'm not racist but...' crowd, set out to undermine the BNP etc

    Is it not time to accept that the word 'racist' is but a construct used to justify the current predicament we are in?

    You cannot argue with the political elite on the issues because they have set the vocabulary and rules of the debate.

    Hence I believe that the Popular Alliance exist only as a vessel for those who, in principle, support British Nationalism but are too cowardly to admit it.

    The 'racist' slur is merely a 'Magic Bullet' and anybody who engages the term has fallen into the trap of the Globalist Conspiracy!

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    Thank you for informing me about the Popular Alliance - most intuitive of you chaps. You seem to have some personal issues.

    Yes, Brian Buxton is the elected party leader of Popular Alliance, however this party is very much a group effort and the policies and statements are written and OK'd by all of us.


    Yes Alan A, you are right, Brian did not and does not agree with much of what those parties offer and neither do the rest of us. Neither do we agree with most of the single issue parties that do very little but argue and insult each other and those with top elite top tables, which is the reason some of us left Veritas or UKIP and joined up with disillusioned people from a variety of political backgrounds - left, right, central, green etc.


    To reply to Hillbilly without resorting to his/her mudslinging and finger pointing approach. No, we are not a facist party, nor do we support the BNP. If the BNP has a faction who wish to soften their approach, then that is the BNP's problem, not ours. This ludicrous theory has been doing the rounds for a few months now and we find it as amusing as we do annoying - as do my Chinese wife and mixed race son !!

    It is quite possible to have an immigration policy without being racist, despite the past efforts of the main 3 parties. In fact, the cross-party Immigration Focus Group has made several statements that could easily be lifted word-for-word from our wide range of common sense policies, so are you also accusing them of being racist and out to replace the BNP ?

    My calculator is not racist, yet it tells me that the Labour quoted "67p national benefit" per immigrant comes nowhere to covering costs of Labour's open door policy. That figure actually only relates to each working immigrant and does not even account for their family members using our medical, educational and social services.

    Based upon those figures, 1 million tax-paying immigrants do not even cover the costs of 14 asylum cases and the ensuing appeals (approx £50,000 per case) which is in direct contrast to Labour's previous efforts to throw the "R" word at anyone who dares to question their motives. On the eastern European side of things, many work very hard here, but most do bank and invest their money back in their own countries. This bleeds our economy dry and helps to build their own in direct competition to ours. It is not racist to question this, not other EU corruption and bullying.

    The need for 10 new Birmingham's to be built over the next few years is in direct contrast to the birth rate of indigenous British, so again, we see our farming land under threat, our infrastructure bursting at its seams and the latest Labour financial hand outs will massively undermine our education and NHS budgets in the coming years. Economics are what provides us with the living standards that we cherish and economics are most certainly not racist.

    I know and like plenty of non-white English people and there are some I dislike too. Similarly, there are plenty of white English I'll happily call my friends and again, plenty I cannot stand. I don't even blame many immigrants for coming here in their droves (who can blame them), I blame the wet Liberal governments that we have had over recent years and the wet Liberal meddlers who milk every last dot and comma to bend legislation against the tax payers of this nation - and that includes against many long-term immigrants living on these shores.

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    Thank you gentlemen - if I answer your replies twice, its because it has taken 3-4 days for the forum to register my first reply.

    Alan A from Bolton ? the check shirt guy ? I seem to remember you also left UKIP for Veritas and then resigned there shortly after Patrick Eston took the chair (around the same time as Brian, myself and plenty of others). So I guess they didn't reflect your views either ??? Actually, you seemed a pretty decent bloke to me, what are you up to these days, besides blasting some guys who have many similar views to yourself and are trying to do something about it ??

    Lancashire Hillbilly - your suggestions are farcical and we've heard it all before. If BNP has a softer faction upsetting the other members, that's their problem not ours. It is not racist to have an immigration policy, but it sounds like Labour's paranoia has got its hold on you too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chazz View Post
    May I introduce the Popular Alliance, a UK registered political party, with a wide ranging agenda of common sense policies, of which the UK's membership of the EU seems to be a common denominator amongst the causes of many problems that our nation faces.

    Popular Alliance was formed in 2005 by a group of people who felt that the main and fringe political parties did not speak for them nor reflect their views. In fact, we were faced by a choice of 3 main Liberal parties with identical agenda or a range of single-issue groups who had some good messages but could not challenge in an election without a cross-the-board agenda of policies.

    Popular Alliance is exactly that - a coming together of the common sense from left, right, centre and even green areas. Our members come from all backgrounds and our one common goal is respect. We have mostly been members of other parties and we all despise the infighting and the undemocratic, elite-table systems. If a group of people cannot respect each other across a table, how can they ask anyone else to respect their party and policies - its hypocritical and puts many people off politics at a time when our nation really needs to speak out to the conceited fools dragging our country down and refusing to listen to the tax payers.

    Popular Alliance believe in :-

    A Country where Hard Work, Achievement and Honesty are Rewarded and not Crime, Fraud and Idleness.

    A Tax System That Encourages Work and Discourages the Benefits Culture.

    A Criminal Justice System that Truly Discourages and Punishes Crime.

    An Education System That Delivers the Skills and Behaviours Required by the Country.

    A Country Which Controls Immigration through Sound Policies and Firmly Delivering Them.

    A Full Debate and Referendum on our Continued Membership of the European Union.

    A Welfare System That Supports the Needy But Not Idleness or Fraud.

    A Country Committed to Sound Environmental, Energy and Recycling Policies.

    A Country That Preserves It's Christian Heritage, Whilst Allowing Complete Freedom Of Belief Under The Law.

    Freedom in Speaking Up For The British Way Of Life without Fear that it is not Politically Correct.


    Some people say that a smaller, newish party is wasting its time and often vote splitting. We are proud to reply that our views, policies and blogs are regularly quoted, word-for-word by all 3 main parties when they require some good common sense to get themselves out of a self-dug hole, and our words often crop up in several daily newspaper columns - again, word-for-word. As a growing party, the next step is to have those words credited to the originators and to start gaining note for them.

    We welcome both Full and Associated members and everyone has a say in forming policies. Please visit Popular Alliance - Home and Popular Alliance Staffordshire - www.popularalliancestaffs.org | Home & Aims to see what we stand for. Who knows, you might even agree !!

    Thanks for your precious time
    Craig Chapman
    Founder Member & Treasurer
    What we have here are 'the nice people' walking on egg shells and minding their Ps and Qs. Common sense is one of those terms that suggests a naive sense of what is 'proper' and acceptable to those who would not wish to step on anyone's toes. In short, just one more attempt to please everyone on every issue going. All things to all men.
    Popular alliances require the participation of various groups that were previously at loggerheads. The trend, however, is to remain 'dug in' and partisan.
    Although most seem to be crowding in on the centre ground (apart from the reactionaries) there remains a stubborn allegiance to party.
    You would have more credence if you had some new economic policies in the face of the international banking crisis ... but you appear to have none.
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    Alan A - the ex UKIP and ex-Veritas Alan A from Bolton ??? Seems you didn't agree with the same things Brian Buxton didn't agree with ??? I actually recall you trying to bring some control to some pretty roudy meetings, what are you up to now ?

    Hillbilly - you are so wide of the mark, its laughable. We heard all this rubbish before and if the BNP have internal problems with members going soft on the hardcore, thats their problem not ours. Our views are shared by many long-term, hard-working immigrants, whilst the BNP's image more often than not just gives more fire to the lefty argument.

    Robert - thanks for your measured input, at least someone around here doesn't jump with 2 feet before engaging the grey matter. You'd be surprised how powerful being nice can actually be. We do have economic plans, but every party's economy policy is out of date because the situation has changed massively day by day. Just because the old policy has been replaced by a statement on our website (Thanks for looking) does't mean we don't have one. I think we all agree that cutting government waste is the biggest aim and our tax policy covers many areas in all of this. We try to make policies that compliment each other, so many other polices still show many angles of our econmy outlook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chazz View Post
    Alan A - the ex UKIP and ex-Veritas Alan A from Bolton ??? Seems you didn't agree with the same things Brian Buxton didn't agree with ??? I actually recall you trying to bring some control to some pretty roudy meetings, what are you up to now ?

    Hillbilly - you are so wide of the mark, its laughable. We heard all this rubbish before and if the BNP have internal problems with members going soft on the hardcore, thats their problem not ours. Our views are shared by many long-term, hard-working immigrants, whilst the BNP's image more often than not just gives more fire to the lefty argument.

    Robert - thanks for your measured input, at least someone around here doesn't jump with 2 feet before engaging the grey matter. You'd be surprised how powerful being nice can actually be. We do have economic plans, but every party's economy policy is out of date because the situation has changed massively day by day. Just because the old policy has been replaced by a statement on our website (Thanks for looking) does't mean we don't have one. I think we all agree that cutting government waste is the biggest aim and our tax policy covers many areas in all of this. We try to make policies that compliment each other, so many other polices still show many angles of our econmy outlook.
    You should have an economic policy to meet the daily situation otherwise what would you do in government? Would you say to the people, "Sorry, our policy is out of date at the moment and we are waiting for a new one"?
    What would you do about the international banking crisis? What is your fiscal policy? You need to answer immediately otherwise you come across as indecisive or worse ... haven't a clue.
    Being 'nice' will not help you then, will it?
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    We have an existing economic policy as we have had displayed online from day one, we only removed it a couple of weeks ago because it needs updating to meet the present, vastly changed global situation. To do that, we need to pass ideas around all Party National Council members, and agree them democratically at our next meeting and then post the poilicy publically. We feel that this approach is better than continuing to present an out of date policy - as mamny parties are doing.

    We are more than open to input too - its a very open party within and we also consider good ideas from outside the party too, so if you have any particular aspects that you would like a political party to consider, please feel free to suggest them.

    Thank you

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