....but Germany is not going down that route and nor is the EU. I've now spoken to contacts in Germany and explained what's been suggested on this thread. They're not happy. Paedophilia remains a criminal offence in Germany and there is no pressure to change that.
No answers to my questions Aardvark?
I find your reply quite strange really, because i have numerous German friends and they all tell me, that in the German language the message is crystal clear, the advice is that it is beneficial to sexually arouse your Daughter, or to sexually massage your Daughter, same difference.
What is clear here though is that the Canadian guy who says that it is beneficial to sexually massage your 1 to 3 year old daughter is a sexual pervert, he is a molester of children.
He has clearly stated that he has allowed his child to see and touch his sexual organ, and that it got him sexually aroused, he is clearly an incestuous paedophile, and he has also assumed that all other parents are the same.
My Daughter has never touched my penis, and if she had done, it would not have aroused me in any way.
The Germans clearly did a paedophile charter, and now reget doing it, because of the uproar it has caused, their seedy littler peadophile plan has quite rightly blown up in their face's.
But be warned it will be released as soon as the hoo ha, has died down, hence no mention of destroying the printed paedophile booklet.
Lets ask everyone here.
Has any one here allowed their Daughter to touch their penis?
Would it sexually arouse you if your Daughter touched your penis?
I mean what decent person would entertain such a disgusting idea, and what kind of person would print out that disgusting advice, and try to pass it off as something normal.......other than another incestuous Paedophile.
I didn't say that the German words are not crystal clear, but it is not German nor EU policy to legalise paedophilia - that is what the heading of the thread states. That is a lie.
If you have German friends you will know that there is no centralised health provision in Germany. German taxpayers must take out health insurance with one of a number of companies. Administration is Laender based. It is compulsory and costs between 12 and 14% of a person's income. None of my German friends or relatives has seen the pamphlet complained of as it will have come from only one of the many health organisations in Germany. One of my nieces was born 8 years ago in Kaiserslautern; neither my brother nor his partner received the pamphlet being discussed in this thread. Another niece was born in Kiel about 10 years ago, but I haven't asked my other brother yet. I know how prudish he is on the matter of children and I'm sure he would have been forthright if he had seen the pamphlet.
650,000 pamphlets sounds a lot, but with over 1 million children born each year and the pamphlet, originally printed in 2001, covering a 6-year age group it doesn't take the brains of a rocket scientist to work out that 2001-6 (worst case) + 6 (up to 2007 when the complaint was made) means a 12 year period is covered (12-15 million children). Allow for the fact that, despite being handed the pamphlet, a large number of parents, especially the experienced ones, would not have read it and would have binned it immediately. Others will have read the bits they were interested in whilst others would automatically have rejected the advice (or complained). Most people who received a pamphlet in 2001 will not have retained it - how many people here keep every medical leaflet or pamphlet they are given? It is not possible to recall or pulp the pamphlet as it is probable that the bulk have long since been destroyed. Despite the average German's unwarranted reputation for being thorough and organised (it was only the Prussians in reality) I would guess, as in this country, that nobody was dishing out the pamphlets and asking for signatures. I received all sorts of pamphlets through my door when I lived in Germany; I have none left, I was never asked to account for them. In the UK the NHS PCT I was a director of distributed all sorts of local and national NHS leaflets - nobody was asked to sign for or account for any of them. It would be silly - health advice is free for all and not secret.
There are a number of assumptions pervading this thread that are totally unsupportable:
1. The print run of 650,000 was distributed in its entirety. In my experience as a director of a NHS PCT reserves are kept.
2. The contents of the leaflet reflect official German government policy to all children in perpetuity. There is no evidence of this.
3. Everybody who received the pamphlet has read it, agreed with it and even acted upon it. This flies in the face of every study on readership of such material. Bought newspapers have a readership of more than one per copy, but free material that people receive as 'bumph' is read by a small minority. I got into this when I had my own business and was trying to advertise products. I would be surprised if half the copies were read in their entirety.
4. The Germans as a race are paedophiles. The Germans, especially in the south, are more religious than people in UK. Germans, according to internationally recognised statistics, have sex later than their Brit counter parts and have nowhere near as many illegitimate births to teen parents. Paedophilia is illegal in Germany and people are imprisoned for it.
5. The EU is run by paedophiles - drivel from Alex Jones I would guess. There are paedophiles in all walks of life (a UKIP candidate was jailed last year for his paedophile activities). Some important people are paedophiles. Most are not. Politicos seem more inclined to have sex with members of the opposite sex as the power they weild is attractive.
6. Foreigners are part of a big paedophile conspiracy. I'm glad to say that this is utter tosh. Foreigners, in my experience, are mainly heterosexual and focus on adults. I know a gay Norwegian guy and a German lesbian, but the foreigners I work with are appalled by paedophilia. Fritzl has opened up a wide ranging discussion.
7. When the fuss has died down the leaflet will be reprinted and reissued without changes. There is no evidence to support this contention. It was printed by one organisation and they have been criticised for it. Despite what a lot of people on this forum think, my experience of public bodies and public service in general is that people are generally sensitive to criticism and bad publicity. Public servants might stand their ground over an unpopular planning decision that they can see is logical, but the issue here is not the sort of thing that wars are fought over. A new leaflet is likely to be printed with a number of editorial changes - remember the complaint was brought by a German in Germany and the original bad publicity was produced entirely in the German language. As health provision is private and people could change their provider if they thought they were linked to paedophile advice, the company who printed the leaflet would think twice before risking pointless financial loss.
8. All medical advice is acted upon. That is why I have a glass of whiskey in my hand and ate fried kidneys today. That is why, despite the fact that tobacco has been identified as a killer, over 20% of our population still smoke. People are drinking alcohol despite warnings. The Brits have masses of clinically obese people despite warnings. We eat fat, drink, smoke, have unprotected sex with strangers, drive dangerously and take all sorts of risks against good advice. The Germans are not much different.
Why would a Roman Catholic, weiss wurst eating, fornicating (mit frauen), smoking, beer swilling fat Bavarian bloke let his daughter touch his willy because some liberal ponce said it was a good idea?
Last edited by Aardvark; 07-01-2009 at 08:57 PM.
It may not be German policy, but it most certainly IS EU policy, as the EU have repeatedly made inference to in attempts thus far to bring this to fruition. It is just that it hasnt been fully implemented yet, but many EU Commissioners, and the EU in general are adamant that paedophilia is to be made mainstream in the EU, and decriminalised as soon as possible. As I have made clear earlier on this thread, this will take place through deception, and smaller steps - to hide the real policy from the population of europe.I didn't say that the German words are not crystal clear, but it is not German nor EU policy to legalise paedophilia - that is what the heading of the thread states. That is a lie.
Just because the Brussels Broadcasting Corp is silent on the realities, does not mean it is not happening. Indeed, think about it - it makes sense for a bunch of paedophiles who run the eu today to bring this in - they trully believe that the most obscene things should be made compulsory on all of us. They have no concept of morality - if they did , they would disband the union immediately.
Thats interesting. Do you have any links?
Please provide a link to any quote from any EU Commissioner that proves he or she is adamant that paedophilia is to be made mainstream.Originally Posted by Nyge21
http://www.euractiv.com/en/security/...article-128665
EU Politics News - theParliament.com
Here they are creating cross border mechanisms to combat paedophilia and trying to create a EU wide register of paedophiles. Clearly the first moves towards legalisation?????
Or they are creating a list of Peado's to form a club where they can all swap dirty picture's.Clearly the first moves towards legalisation?????
That sounds more likely, given their keen-ness to support a lowering in the age of consent to make sex with children acceptable.or they are creating a list of Peado's to form a club where they can all swap dirty picture's
In reply to Aardvaak earlier, the commissioners prefer to make their views less obvious, so are not making quotes publicly - that would be political suicide - however there is plenty of evidence that their intentions are to support paedophilia - and there have been specific claims made against Jose Barosso and the Madeleine McCann case. You can find more details on the internet. Furthermore , through a specific omission in the context of paedophilia, the Lisbon Treaty will make most paedophilia lawful (read the treaty documentation) if it is ever fully ratified.
Sex with opposite sex maybe, but that doesnt preclude them wanting it with someone very young now does it? The opposite sex covers all ages after all.
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