Roma gypsies still being expelled from France

[Marilyn]

[EMF]

Aren't there about 20% of the population of Switzerland people of foreign descent?

[Marilyn]

Aren't there about 20% of the population of Switzerland people of foreign descent?

25% ...........

[Steve Morson]

Course its good enough for the mensa titans here, that's why she does it knowing she can get away with it.

Note how she constantly scrambles for the very pinnacle of the moral high ground despite being the one shoveling out the unsubstantiated assertions and odd remarks.

More bilge. How does a cretin like you - a mere senior member - get to childishly abuse the rep system by giving out neg rep?

Your sneering comment is indicative of feelings of inferiority.

[Mr Rob]

More bilge. How does a cretin like you - a mere senior member - get to childishly abuse the rep system by giving out neg rep?

Your sneering comment is indicative of feelings of inferiority.

Another psychoanalyst! Well well, a bit of a surprise, but glad to see you none the less.

[Tallahassee12]

This thread gets funnier by the minute.
Yours
Mere senior thetan ...

[ron]

So if you were walking down the street and on one side there is a large group of blackmen would you treat them the same way as any other group?

You will need to define the situation a bit more. Which is my point.

[ron]

Just checking, Ron.

You were in Romania; do you think it is a nation of thieves? Do you think the difference between the Romanians and the Roma is quite pronounced?

BTW Marilyn, no need to butt in here, this is no longer about you, I am interested in Ron's opinion as someone who has worked in Romania and wasn't just there trying to exploit the natives.

I was working there a total of 5 weeks well away from the capital, just before and just after they joined the EU and only amongst Romanians. Great guys but poor quality and lazy workers, probably a hangover from the communist era. I can only go on what I heard about the gypsies but heard so many tales it would be a bit daft to pretend there was no problem with them - isolated and crime ridden was the general impression. In other words, the same as you hear everywhere else.

So different yes but neither group come out smelling of roses in my limited experience.

[Steve Morson]

Another psychoanalyst! Well well, a bit of a surprise, but glad to see you none the less.

Well for the salutation! Always had an interest in it, and a highly successful module in Psychology at uni in the 90's stimulated me enormously.

Add to that some of the 'cases' on here, rich pickings for a cynical 10-bob pub-psychologist!

[Mr Rob]

I was working there a total of 5 weeks well away from the capital, just before and just after they joined the EU and only amongst Romanians. Great guys but poor quality and lazy workers, probably a hangover from the communist era. I can only go on what I heard about the gypsies but heard so many tales it would be a bit daft to pretend there was no problem with them - isolated and crime ridden was the general impression. In other words, the same as you hear everywhere else.

So different yes but neither group come out smelling of roses in my limited experience.

No, I shouldn't think they did.

Romania didn't attract much western interest (and "investment") after the fall of the USSR, save for the Romanian orphanages, and I suppose the odd speculator like internetcynic looking for a cheap property. The people have stayed very poor, and there has indeed been a massive hangover from communist times.

People should have seen the Poles after the collapse of the USSR, and look at them now, or at least some of them. It seems, from my limited experience, that the uselessness of the workers, and how long it lasts, is in inverse proportion to the amount of money invested in the country - otherwise it's just a mental extension of the overmanning (designed to ensure full employment) and the lack of motivation (just doing a job for the state) of the old days.

I doubt the Roma will ever voluntarily change though, no matter which country they live in.