Clegg fights back - effectively!

[Millennium3]

UKIP, you have to go somewhere, unless they kick Call me Dave out and a real Tory leads the party.

Sorry - I meant left of centre - an 'In/Out' referendum would not be won without them.

[internetcynic]

Clegg and Cable are the last survivors of the sinking of the HMS LibDem. Theres no ship anymore, they can either wait to get picked up by the HMS Tory or try and paddle for land, before the Election Tsunami wipes them out.

[longbow64]

Clegg and Cable are the last survivors of the sinking of the HMS LibDem. Theres no ship anymore, they can either wait to get picked up by the HMS Tory or try and paddle for land, before the Election Tsunami wipes them out.

VERY GOOD, p issed mi self laughing.

[president]

Usual pro Eu grovelling and ****-sucking from Clegg, who would sell us down the river to the Eu at the first chance he got.

Clegg is the sort of brainless sycophantic EU toad that would have vociferously defended Chamberlain appeasing Hitler in 1938. In the words of Max Hastings, "a political party for flat earthers, muesli eaters, world peace salesmen, and kindness-to- rats enthusiasts."

Prime minister Chamberlin couldn't of criticised Adolph, when he was the leader of a Kingdom committed to empire. You can't preech and then do something very similar. That is a poor comparison.

[angelman]

Clegg is a consumate liar who has destroyed the Lib-dem party and will lose his Sheffield MP seat at the next general election.

Would Clegg have faired any better in a Brown government? He was king maker so I suppose he could have insisted that he would form a coalition if Brown was replaced, as I do not think it would have been possible to work with Brown. Would that ever have happened? Would the Lib Dems ever have been in a similar position in the near future? So he sort of had to grab this chance with the hope (maybe naively or possibly unrealistically) that he could force through election reform, that would ensure proper parliamentary representation of his party. That was presumably the primary objective and has failed dismally. It might well have finished off the party, but time will tell on that.

What other areas could they exert their influence on? While they like to consider themselves a check to the Tories less socially "acceptable" reforms, Europe was an area especially as the Tories can't get unity on it. Maybe Clegg thought that there was more chance of doing their thing with the Tories than Brown.

[Hartlepool]

Only in the last week or so Clegg has hinted that in a future GE he would definately consider going into a coalition with the Labour party.

Also, I believe the GE result should be enforced on the winner without the backup of hedging their bets by knowing they can go into a coalition with anyone. Coalitions should be banned, in the interest of fairness and democracy toward the electorate.

[angelman]

He might find it possible to work with Milliband, but Brown I suspect was not an option. Maybe that is a good thing to say about Brown. But I do find him going on about who he could work with in a coalition very weasely, as it must be wrong to fight a GE in the role of king maker. You say that it should be banned, but if Clegg goes into the next election undertaking the role of junior member of a coalition, then he might find that no one votes for him.

[Hartlepool]

The system for GE is wrong in my opinion. Whoever wins it should govern. Coming in second etc denotes that you do not have the backing of the electorate. Allowing party's to scroung around to get a majority is unfair, undemocratic and hypocritical as each party's generally has it's own members/ supporters who will resent a partnership with some other party that is in oposites with them on most things, or at least some things. We should give it a try as this may just break up the old pals act and stop party's being classed as " ALL BEING THE SAME" or, hand in glove with each other.