Internet Privacy Becomes A Thing of The Past.

**Aardvark** · 05-07-2012, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by dloper

I wonder what would happen if everyone who thinks their privacy is at risk were to include a selection of keywords such as terrorist, plot, bomb, subversion, al qaeda etc. in every electronic communication.

Hopefully GCHQ and their equivalents would seize up in a cloud of acrid smoke.

Expect a knock at the door shortly.

**Big Brother** · 05-07-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by dloper

I wonder what would happen if everyone who thinks their privacy is at risk were to include a selection of keywords such as terrorist, plot, bomb, subversion, al qaeda etc. in every electronic communication.

Hopefully GCHQ and their equivalents would seize up in a cloud of acrid smoke.

Differentiating between electronic communications exchanged by terrorists and those discussing such topics between internet forum users on a wbsite such as this would require some human inspection, and rubbishes the notion that the actual content of emails etc. would not be examined.

If GCHQ, MI5 or MI6 thought for one moment that a terrorist operation was being planned online, I have no doubt that the contents of all electronic communications would be brought under swift scrutiny.

**Road_Hog** · 05-07-2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Aardvark

Expect a knock at the door shortly.

I'm remember flipping through a magazine many years ago and they had a security expert (spook) discussing government security. And I remember journalist asking him at the end, whether we were really being monitored. And he was like, yep for sure, 100%. And the journo said, 100% sure?

To which he replied, try this little test if you don't believe me. Send from work, two emails to your home address. In the one that you send FIRST, put in the title, assassinate Clinton and Blair. Give it a couple of minutes and send another with something innocuous, like see you at the football tonight. I guarantee the first one to arrive in your inbox will be the one about football.

I tried it and exactly that happened. Mind you, that was in the late '90s and it may have changed now, with new technology.

**Steve Morson** · 05-07-2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by dloper

I wonder what would happen if everyone who thinks their privacy is at risk were to include a selection of keywords such as terrorist, plot, bomb, subversion, al qaeda etc. in every electronic communication.

Hopefully GCHQ and their equivalents would seize up in a cloud of acrid smoke.

I can assure you they won't. I used to converse on t'internet with an arch and rebellious cove, thoroughly decent bloke (American), who used to have as his signature to forum posts and e-mails: "Just a few keywords to keep the boys at Echelon busy: ...." followed by - well - I'm sure you can imagine! A week or so later, I couldn't track him anywhere on the internet.

Echelon is 16 acres of top-end servers, underneath Fort Meade army base in Maryland. (It's also linked to the NSA monitoring and research facility at Kent Island - which makes GCHQ look like a crystal set.) It filters every single e-mail sent on publicly-available networks, anywhere, anytime for keywords, and if found, flags them up for human interpretation. If the context is "troubling" rather than just included in casual conversation, it will get deep analysis and investigation.

This has been going on since the mid-90's, and this article (and of course, the EU) is truly cretinous, as they can decrypt anything proprietary in microseconds.

Seen this?

**Big Brother** · 05-07-2012, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Steve Morson

This has been going on since the mid-90's, and this article (and of course, the EU) is truly cretinous, as they can decrypt anything proprietary in microseconds.

Seen this?

Pork. Cloud. Mexico.

Let's see what happens ..

**angelman** · 05-07-2012, 11:45 AM

Interesting story - I know, I know. It's the Dm so probably ballcocks but....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2169130/Alureon-virus-FBI-warn-PC-WILL-kicked-internet-Monday.html

When the attack was noticed, the FBI took the unusual step of setting up a 'safety-net', routing infected machines through their server to stop the 'spoof' attacks.

Very kind of the FBI to do that.

**internetcynic** · 05-07-2012, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Steve Morson

This has been going on since the mid-90's, and this article (and of course, the EU) is truly cretinous, as they can decrypt anything proprietary in microseconds.

Seen this?

No there are certian systems still currently beyond NSA decryption. Weve had this discussion before. Encryption systems based on Np-complete polynomials can always be made uncrackable because the time taken to decrypt the two large prime number keys increases exponentially as you increase the key length.

Make the two key primes large enough, it takes days to decrypt. Thats why Mersenne primes are so hard to find, and why there's only 47 known Mersenne Primes after 250 years of looking, and why such problems are known as nP-hard. One such system is Private Idaho. Trust the maths, it never lies.

You fell for the BS, they WANT you to think they can crack any cypher. If they are so smart, how come the Voynich Manuscript remains undecipherable, thats should be a doddle to crack?