Nationalist Unity

[Mill]

I notice that Eddy Butler's blog has not been updated for over a month. On a similar note (although not to the same extent) BNP Ideas/Nationalist Unity is rarely updated these days.

Are Nationalists now left with a straight choice between the NF and British Freedom*?

Many people are looking for an alternative, there is still room for a party to strike between the NF and BF who would become the premier party and hopefully be the ones to take the nationalist lead in Britain.

*I note that in his latest speech Paul Weston denounces the idea of BF even being nationalist, and states they are "patriotic" instead.

[jamesUK]

No, British nationalism is dead. The patriotic Tories are filling the void. Nationalism has come home even if football cups never do.

http://www.traditionalbritain.org/

[For_England]

I miss the BNP; when I discovered it in 2005 (putting aside my meeting with two activists in the street in Bedfordshire in 1993, my first contact), it seemed like a real people's salvation movement, with an organically integrated message which resonated. I was in the last throes of coming out of my libertarianism (thanks to an interest in organic eating and learning about the evils of mass industrialized food production), and the common sense economics turned me into a full blown distributist. The articles were imaginative, thought-provoking, harbingers of what a new Britain might look like, with the evils and excesses of modern liberal, individualistic, artificial and industrialised society stripped away. Family values, traditional cuisine and culture, pride in our history, promotion of small businesses, freedom to speak our mind and be human once more, new and promising horizons in everything from energy production to architecture. It was a party that I was convinced, given time, would win over the farmers, the environmentalists, even the upper classes, once the image had been cleaned up and talent on the peripheries pushed to the forefront. It would snowball; already the party was out in the streets, cleaning up graffiti, cleaning up the rubbish, and putting paid to the media's lies.

Nationalist unity? Nothing but a wasteland. Meanwhile, Rome burns.

[Shimon D'Arby]

There will never be any form of Nationalist Unity while the perverse Griffinite BNP exists.

There is a multitude of British Nationalists scratching their heads and kicking their heels today. Too many of us put our faith in Griffin and were then swamped by the Tsunami of sleaze, corruption and nepotism.

Many are so sickened by the way British Nationalism has imploded over the last 20 years, be it the C18/Sargent scandals or the Griffin cabaret that they have been scattered to the four winds.

Others have joined or re-joined the Front and the BM etc. A significant number have joined or loaned their support to various Identity, Asatru, Infidel and "First" groups.
Some only keep contact and informed through the internet, on boards like this one.

Before any leftists and race traitors crack open the Elderberry wine in celebration of our sad and dispirate state, take note
"They haven't gone away you know".
XIV.

[Papa Luigi]

I notice that Eddy Butler's blog has not been updated for over a month. On a similar note (although not to the same extent) BNP Ideas/Nationalist Unity is rarely updated these days.

Are Nationalists now left with a straight choice between the NF and British Freedom*?

Many people are looking for an alternative, there is still room for a party to strike between the NF and BF who would become the premier party and hopefully be the ones to take the nationalist lead in Britain.

*I note that in his latest speech Paul Weston denounces the idea of BF even being nationalist, and states they are "patriotic" instead.

Hi Mill,

There is no point at present forming a new nationalist political party because there is no prospect of a nationalist party getting any candidates elected. This situation will continue until; a process of attrition has reduced the number of nationalist micro-parties to just one or two, who are prepared to co-operate in their campaigning; and until we have effected a significant degree of cultural change; and acquired a range of vital assets and resources that are prerequisites of electoral success.

In the interim, operating as a political party which just abstains from contesting elections is a no-go because there are several organisational and tactical disadvantages to such an approach. It is better to form a more efficient and effective form of organisation for the time being, that is designed to put us in a position to contest elections with a realistic chance of success at a future date.

When that date comes, in say five to ten years time, we will have the option then to either throw our weight behind one or more of the surviving micro-parties or to form a new party of our own, but we are a long way from being in a position to do that today.

[Papa Luigi]

No, British nationalism is dead. The patriotic Tories are filling the void. Nationalism has come home even if football cups never do.

http://www.traditionalbritain.org/

I'm sorry to disappoint you JamesUK, but as Mark Twain once said, "reports of [our]death have been greatly exaggerated".

Conservatism will never be effective in combatting the advance of Marxism, because Conservatives tend to want to 'conserve', i.e. preserve, the status quo, whatever that happens to be at any moment in time. Therefore a country in which there are alternating conservative and left-wing governments will experience a 'rachet' effect in which the society will lurch to the left during periods of socialist government and will merely conserve the prevailing status quo whenever the conservatives rule. The overall effect will be a gradual drift to the left.

At the very best, conservatives simply want to 'turn back the clock' to a time of perceived former glory and in this respect, while spiritually more attractive than the tendencey described above, they are easily portrayed by the media as political 'Victor Meldrews'. From a psychological point of view, backward looking conservatism is easily portrayed as 'dull', 'unimaginative', 'staid', 'stick-in-the-mud', 'old fashioned' and 'unattractive', particularly to the young, who are the voters of the future. The young see that society has problems and irrespective of what it is that they do not like, they do not find the idea of a 'dead-hand on the tiller' inspirational or attractive.

Radical Nationalism embodies that which is good about the past and blends this with a compelling view of a new, progressive and exciting future. Nick Griffin has enabled the political establishment to give nationalism a 'kick in the b♠llox', but we are 'picking ourselves up', 'dusting ourselves down', and the future will belong to us!

[Papa Luigi]

I miss the BNP; when I discovered it in 2005 (putting aside my meeting with two activists in the street in Bedfordshire in 1993, my first contact), it seemed like a real people's salvation movement, with an organically integrated message which resonated. I was in the last throes of coming out of my libertarianism (thanks to an interest in organic eating and learning about the evils of mass industrialized food production), and the common sense economics turned me into a full blown distributist. The articles were imaginative, thought-provoking, harbingers of what a new Britain might look like, with the evils and excesses of modern liberal, individualistic, artificial and industrialised society stripped away. Family values, traditional cuisine and culture, pride in our history, promotion of small businesses, freedom to speak our mind and be human once more, new and promising horizons in everything from energy production to architecture. It was a party that I was convinced, given time, would win over the farmers, the environmentalists, even the upper classes, once the image had been cleaned up and talent on the peripheries pushed to the forefront. It would snowball; already the party was out in the streets, cleaning up graffiti, cleaning up the rubbish, and putting paid to the media's lies.

Nationalist unity? Nothing but a wasteland. Meanwhile, Rome burns.

Then let us stop 'crying over spilled milk' and start doing something positive with others who are willing?

[Papa Luigi]

There will never be any form of Nationalist Unity while the perverse Griffinite BNP exists.

There is a multitude of British Nationalists scratching their heads and kicking their heels today. Too many of us put our faith in Griffin and were then swamped by the Tsunami of sleaze, corruption and nepotism.

Many are so sickened by the way British Nationalism has imploded over the last 20 years, be it the C18/Sargent scandals or the Griffin cabaret that they have been scattered to the four winds.

Others have joined or re-joined the Front and the BM etc. A significant number have joined or loaned their support to various Identity, Asatru, Infidel and "First" groups.
Some only keep contact and informed through the internet, on boards like this one.

Before any leftists and race traitors crack open the Elderberry wine in celebration of our sad and dispirate state, take note
"They haven't gone away you know".
XIV.

Martina Navratalova was once being interviewed after a particularly difficult tennis match, in which she had been at 40:30 down, 3 games to 5 down, in the second set against a very formidable opponent, but had still come back to win. When asked what it was that turned the tide of the match she replied, "I realised that in order to win, I simply needed to keep knocking the ball back over the net, and I concentrated for the rest of the match on just doing that one thing". So let us not dwell on the grief that we feel with regard to past failures and betrayals, the ball is in your court - where are you going to hit it?

[AndyMinion]

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Because, quite obviously, all the country's Movers and Shakers hang out here.

[Shimon D'Arby]

Martina Navratalova was once being interviewed after a particularly difficult tennis match, in which she had been at 40:30 down, 3 games to 5 down, in the second set against a very formidable opponent, but had still come back to win. When asked what it was that turned the tide of the match she replied, "I realised that in order to win, I simply needed to keep knocking the ball back over the net, and I concentrated for the rest of the match on just doing that one thing". So let us not dwell on the grief that we feel with regard to past failures and betrayals, the ball is in your court - where are you going to hit it?

And here's me thinking Navratilova wasn't all that interested in balls too. She was more interested in drinking from the Furry Cup than the Davis Cup.