Stabbings in Westfield Stratford

[Patman Post]

I meant to note that the Wikipedia commentary cited above goes beyond misleading in one important respect. The two suspects were not acquitted; the jury in their trial failed to reach a verdict and their case was sent to retrial. However, before the second trial, the CPS withdrew the prosecution and the two were released with, according to press reports, around £250,000 each in compensation for the time they spent on remand.

But they were not acquitted and could still be re-tried, even without recourse to the partial repeal of double jeopardy. Providing the police are willing to invest a Stephen Lawrence sized amount (ie multi-millions) on a new new investigation, that is.

Pigs might fly.

Whichever way you want to spin it, nothing commented on by Wiki was incorrect. No one has been found guilty of the murder of Charlene Downes. And the judgment on Police bungling/dishonesty/incompetence remains. Should new, compelling evidence be found, I am sure the Police will pursue it as hard as they can – if only to scrape the egg off their faces. After all, as far as we know in this case, there's no suggestion that relatives of the former accused are paying off people to lose clues or screw up evidence to interfere with investigations).

Sadly, Charlene Downes's supposed fate does not appear to have prompted enough of a groundswell of horror or outpouring of grief among ordinary decent citizens for them to want to commemorate and retrieve some good from her distressing disappearance in a lasting memorial, such as a library or a scholarship. Other than a few keyboard warriers and intellectually-challenged BNP/EDL street fodder being stirred up to use her relatives worries as racist propaganda, the rest of the world waits to see if she reappears, or if it's proved she is deceased, the manner of her passing.

If you know different, and have published or recorded material to call on to support any claim, I am confident Wiki will carry your amendments.

[Citizen67]

God, you're a revolting w*****.

[Dan Dare]

In order for a resolution in the Charlene Downes case to occur, two things have to happen. First, there has to be significant political capital to be gained in pursuing the case on the part of the establishment, and second, there has to be a political and financial commitment on the part of the powers that be to bring the case to closure. For the establishment there is little if any potential upside in striving for final answers or even in seriously reviewing the evidence which is already in hand. It would, for example, be a simple matter technically to analyse digitally using state-of-the-art recognition software the 50-odd hours of surveillance tapes which were said to have been poorly transcribed (manually) by an officer who has since been sacked as a scapegoat. But even that is not being done.

Given that pursuing Charlene's killer(s) is highly likely to result in an outcome which runs counter to the over-riding objectives of the multicultural state I fear we are most unlikely to see the case reopened unless and until there is a political sea-change.

[Patman Post]

I doubt the ethnicity of the suspects or victim will hold up investigations (as it did with the Stephen Lawrence case). But all the BNP/EDL-sympathysers' blathering in the world won't conjure up evidence that's not there – unless the same Police team is used, that is...

[Dan Dare]

I doubt the ethnicity of the suspects or victim will hold up investigations (as it did with the Stephen Lawrence case). But all the BNP/EDL-sympathysers' blathering in the world won't conjure up evidence that's not there – unless the same Police team is used, that is...

There doesn't appear to be any indication that the authorities are about to launch a public inquiry into police incompetence/prejudice, or changing the law, or spending upwards of £50 million on a new criminal investigation in pursuit of a resolution to the Charlene Downes case as they did in the Lawrence one. The question is, why not?

We're entitled to wonder why without being labelled BNP/EDL sympathisers.

And as for the zeal with which criminal investigations are conducted, is the claim that the ethnicity of the suspects has never been a factor?

[Patman Post]

And as for the zeal with which criminal investigations are conducted, is the claim that the ethnicity of the suspects has never been a factor?

You'll never hear me claim that. Victim or suspect, non-Whites always get the shitty end of the stick.

In the Charlene Downes case, I bet the Police are really smarting over their publicly-observed incompetence. You can be sure they won't let it drop, illegible tapes or not...

[Dan Dare]

You'll never hear me claim that. Victim or suspect, non-Whites always get the shitty end of the stick.

In the Charlene Downes case, I bet the Police are really smarting over their publicly-observed incompetence. You can be sure they won't let it drop, illegible tapes or not...

It wasn't the police who initiated the radical post-Lawrence changes, but rather the government of the day. They clearly felt there was political capital to be made.

There is a Home Affairs Committee Inquiry going on at the moment into what they term 'localised child grooming'. It will be interesting to see whether they recommend a McPherson-style inquiry and, if they do, whether the government accepts the recommendation. Such an inquiry, if conducted honestly, is likely to reach fairly damning conclusions for the police and the multicultural state, possibly as damning if not more so as those of the McPherson inquiry for the Metropolitan Police.

[Road_Hog]

You'll never hear me claim that. Victim or suspect, non-Whites always get the shitty end of the stick.

What a load of b0ll0cks.

[Patman Post]

What a load of bollocks.

Corrected – you post it so often you really should know how to type it...

PS: have you found any inaccuracies in the Wiki commentary on Charlene Downes yet?

[Road_Hog]

Corrected – you post it so often you really should know how to type it...

PS: have you found any inaccuracies in the Wiki commentary on Charlene Downes yet?

Have you found the Charlene Downes' Wiki page yet? I can't check it if it doesn't exist any more.