A White Crime vs a Black/Pakistani Crime

[paralreg]

Perhaps if we concentrated on the crime, and the detection and punishment of the offenders rather than their nationality we may just make progress, while race is dwelt on as being most important it will always distract from the horror of the crime. These are rapists not white black brown green blue nor are they Pakistani, British, African or whatever, they are PERVERTS, and all races must be entreated to look upon and treat them as outsiders for that is what they are in any genuine society. Bickering about race will only produce a "Well he's one of us, so say nothing" attitude that hides them through inaction if people want respect then it has to be name and shame regardless of where they are from, or you are as guilty as they are!

[Rebirth]

Paralreg - Yes, they are perverts, and yes, this (the abuse) is not restricted to any particular race, ethnicity, religion or non-religion. However, to the eye, it does seem that their (Rochdale as an example) targets were chosen by the fact that they were non-Muslim white girls (racial or religious motive?). People have tried to put a sense of randomness to their pickings, but I believe this is a cover up, and considering the calculated evil a Jihadi can do, I wouldn't rule out (certainly not by bullying) any other possibility.

[paralreg]

Paralreg - Yes, they are perverts, and yes, this (the abuse) is not restricted to any particular race, ethnicity, religion or non-religion. However, to the eye, it does seem that their (Rochdale as an example) targets were chosen by the fact that they were non-Muslim white girls (racial or religious motive?). People have tried to put a sense of randomness to their pickings, but I believe this is a cover up, and considering the calculated evil a Jihadi can do, I wouldn't rule out (certainly not by bullying) any other possibility.

Might I suggest that these poor kids were selected because they were available, I don't think their race is anything to do with it other than a lot of white people do not pay adequate attention to what their kids are doing. They were young kids whose parents should have known what they were up to. We have raised three daughters my youngest is nearly eighteen and we have never hampered their freedom but we insisted when they were the age of those in these rape cases that we knew where they were going, doing, and when they were coming home. For most of our kids time growing up there were no mobiles and a lot had to be preplanned and it's execution taken on trust. I do not want to seem to be blaming the parents but I feel that parental responsibility has failed these kids, of course like anyone they should be able to go where and when they want in safety but we know as oldies that this is not so, but kids don't know this, and get into these horrible messes.
There has always been and always will be men like this and it is the men not tha Asian men or the Pakistani men or the White men, it is the perverted men that are responsible not their community or general race.

[Citizen67]

I remember reading the memoirs of Elridge Cleaver, one of the founders of the Black Panthers, Soul On Ice, and he definitely chose his victims on the basis of their Race, (He was a Rapist) he said first he practised on Black girls then he went over the Tracks to get what he really wanted, White girls.

Black pimps said they prefer White prostitutes because they made more money, they called them "Silks". ("Pimp" - Iceberg Slim).

You can't say Race don't exist, they don't see Race, it is very up-most in their forethoughts, I lived in a house where I was the only White person and the Black boys wer obsessed by White girls, talk about it all the time,getting to sleep with White Girls, it is every Black Man's Dream to sleep with a White Girl.

[Citizen67]

Might I suggest that these poor kids were selected because they were available, I don't think their race is anything to do with it other than a lot of white people do not pay adequate attention to what their kids are doing. They were young kids whose parents should have known what they were up to. We have raised three daughters my youngest is nearly eighteen and we have never hampered their freedom but we insisted when they were the age of those in these rape cases that we knew where they were going, doing, and when they were coming home. For most of our kids time growing up there were no mobiles and a lot had to be preplanned and it's execution taken on trust. I do not want to seem to be blaming the parents but I feel that parental responsibility has failed these kids, of course like anyone they should be able to go where and when they want in safety but we know as oldies that this is not so, but kids don't know this, and get into these horrible messes.
There has always been and always will be men like this and it is the men not tha Asian men or the Pakistani men or the White men, it is the perverted men that are responsible not their community or general race.

If there is a genetic element to Paedophilia then it would be possible to eliminate these perverts for future generations.

[flamingreen]

If there is a genetic element to Paedophilia then it would be possible to eliminate these perverts for future generations.

Nobody is suggetsing its 'genetic', its cultural, racist targtting of a group they lust after but do not respect. Simple.

[Citizen67]

Very well put.

[Big Brother]

I agree. The deflection tactics are quite disgusting. However, why should we expect them to care, when they are obviously brainwashed to believe they are superior to their victims?

I've experienced the "superior" attitude of Indians, Turks, Chinese, Thais et al. at first hand. I used to think "where is this superior attitude coming from? Do they think they are racially superior? Or is it down to religion?" In all probability, it's likely to be a bit of both. And of course if I were to say that I don't like being treated like a lesser human being by foreign people in my own country, that would make me a racist, and not someone who has experienced racial and/or religious discrimination because I am white and non-Muslim.

[paralreg]

I've experienced the "superior" attitude of Indians, Turks, Chinese, Thais et al. at first hand. I used to think "where is this superior attitude coming from? Do they think they are racially superior? Or is it down to religion?" In all probability, it's likely to be a bit of both. And of course if I were to say that I don't like being treated like a lesser human being by foreign people in my own country, that would make me a racist, and not someone who has experienced racial and/or religious discrimination because I am white and non-Muslim.

I recently complained to a bus company about the abuse I got from an Asian looking ticket inspector when I said simply "I am sorry but I can not understand what you are saying to me" and exactly that no add ons or omissions and the guy went into a rant about whites and so on and on and on until I said I was going to call the Police and produced my phone. At this he said in much clearer English that I had verbally abused him and HE was going to call the Police and walked away supposedly to do so but in-fact disappeared. I got the names of three people near as witnesses (not all white) and reported the incident to the bus company and heard nothing despite me calling five times, I then emailed them and said I was taking the matter to the police at this they apologised for me being upset over a minor misunderstanding, The emailer was clearly Asian by his name and I believe from enquiries I made that 60% of the staff are Asian, I don't mind this but I will not become a second class citizen to someone who pretends they can't speak English to play the race card. I have friends of every colour, race, class and creed and when I told them of this they said it was not the established immigrants that do this but the new ones as they are taught before coming here that the racial blackmail card is the way to get what they want. Many of my friends are second third or even fourth generation English and they say it is causing troubles for them as they go about their lives even to being abused in their own languages by these recent immigrants whom my friends say are often petty criminals who have bought their records from corrupt police back home so they don't have problems getting here. Bloody wonderful is it not?

[Francis Overdere]

In the wake of this hoo haa about pakistani sex grooming gangs i would ike us to observe the difference in media attention for similar cirmes committed by white people, compared to those of ethnic minority groups - and prove to the audience, that pakistani's abusing kids is no better or worse than any other race.

What constantly amazes me about you Muslims is that instead of condemning your lot for what they do first of all you sought to blame the girls saying they were tarts. Now you're trying to start some sort of league table proving that the English are worse than Pakistanis when it comes to sex crimes and playing the victim "Ah. You only report our crimes. Not those of white people."

Listen, you sad gít,we know there are perverts among us. The difference between you and us is that most of us would shoot our perverts and paedophiles but you personally and others with your beliefs excuse yours. "The girls dress provocatively. The rapists were only a little bit older than the girls.The girls were tarts. "

All things you have written.