To evidence that point you would need to provide some names of the people you believe have done both of the things quoted earlier. Can you supply?
Originally Posted by flamingreen
To evidence that point you would need to provide some names of the people you believe have done both of the things quoted earlier. Can you supply?
Some months ago I gave an example of a taxi driver who took me to the airport. He was newly arrived from Pakistan (drove like a maniac!!), and told me he had got here on a student visa and was going to start his studies in September. The taxi company (run by asians) were giving him as much work as he wanted until then.
I asked what course he was going to study and he was rather vague about it and said he may not proceed with it. But he added that he was keen to stay here and hopefully meet and marry a British girl..
Bear in mind CB100, that this figure is not in any way a 'count' it is simply a *guesstimate*, based on the discredited 'unfit for purpose' Interational passenger survey, a series of random 'counts' over short periods at selected points of entry and questioning of a proportion of entrants. Questions asked include for example: 'How long do you intend remaining in the UK?'
Those with no right to remain permanently are of coures not going to anwer truthfully, and even for EU citizens, their answers are likely to be indecisive at first, however hopeful their intentions that thing will work out well and they can remain indefinitely.
I take it he was assuming you were not an offiicial from the Borders Agency...
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EMF is not under any obligation to support his observation by 'naming and shaming'. Citizen and myself happen to agree with him, having observed this tendency among pro mass immigrationists ourselves, not only here but on other boards, in my case at least, and I am confident you will observe it too, if you stick around long enough - provided head isnt permanently stuck in sand, of course!
Indeed CB100, think about it. Its hardly surprising that the same people who criticise those drawing attention to immigrant crime, ARE the very same pro mass immigrationists who try to justify importing immigrants due to the alleged 'laziness'of Brits. It hardly calls for 'proof'!
Last edited by flamingreen; 24-06-2012 at 08:43 PM.
27,000,000 Romanians and Bulgarians+ 4,000,000 Moldovans gain the right to work here in
January 2014! Stop them now:http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41492
Stop 4.3 m Croatians http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47078
He seemed a nice chap actually, if somewhat naive.
I take it he was assuming you were not an offiicial from the Borders Agency...
Labour always does this in a preperation to a run up to an election campaign, they used to roll out Jack Straw as Labour's fireman, I remember the electorate being hood winked over allowing immediate mass E.U. immigration with Straw saying 50,000 people would arrive, in the end it was closer to a million.
At the same time plans were being drawn up to build on green belt, a million new homes that we needed, right in the Tories home countries.
Also just before the last election that Labour won there was a hoo-harr abot Muslim veils, sure enough to reassure the electorate Mr. Straw asked them to remove them when in his M.P.'s surgery.
What a con, Labours very, very best friend in all the world has been immigration, they knew about E.U. immigration and every single job going to a foreigner, and every vote for them it brings, why should they change now. If ED Millipead gets in he'll stoke up the fire's of immigration yet again while lying through his teeth and this country will be finished.
Why are the weak Tories not calling him a liar to his face about this, they should be screaming their heads off.
I'm sure the people you criticise for making unsupported generalisations would be as confident they were right as you and Citizen...EMF is not under any obligation to support his observation by 'naming and shaming'. Citizen and myself happen to agree with him, having observed this tendency among pro mass immigrationists ourselves, not only here but on other boards, in my case at least, and I am confident you will observe it too, if you stick around long enough - provided head isnt permanently stuck in sand, of course!
Just think about it yourself. Unless you can quote examples of people who do both of the things you accuse them of, you are making the same sort of unsupported generalisations you accuse others of making.Indeed CB100, think about it. Its hardly surprising that the same people who criticise those drawing attention to immigrant crime, ARE the very same pro mass immigrationists who try to justify importing immigrants due to the alleged 'laziness'of Brits. It hardly calls for 'proof'!
Actusally longbow, the lie was even bigger, as wer the numbers. The figure they originally gave was the laugable figure of 13,000. I say laughable because anyone witha minimla knoww;ledge of the old communist countries knew how people there longed for the 'west' and saw it as pavd with gold. It was always obviousthat at last several hundred thousand would come.I remember the electorate being hood winked over allowing immediate mass E.U. immigration with Straw saying 50,000 people would arrive, in the end it was closer to a million.
I believe Blair did a very dirty deal with the leaders of the A8, since this took place just shortly after he drummed up their support for invasion of Iraq. They wouldnt have expected nothing in return when Blairs position was so weakened and desperate!
Also we have FAR FAR more thana million Euopeans. Even th BBC has admitted 'over a million' hav come, although they have many times tried to suggest the numbers are less now because some have gone back (not apparntly noticeing that while some have gone back more and more new ones still keep coming, an ome who go back return again too).
However, for here to be sucha visible (and audible) Eastern European presence, in every corner of Britian, they have even formed vaguards of immigrants into rural areas where previously very few foreign ethnics ventured(being very colour prejudiced they prefer to settle in areas with white people and few blacks and Asians), the numbers have to be FAR over a million, IMO three to five million Eastern Europeans live here now, perhaps around 3-4% of the population.
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Saying British people are 'lazy', a sweeping generalistion about MILLLIONS of people, which has no rational basis in logic (why would this suddenly have happened to a nation?), and could not possibly be based upon anything other than very limited personal experience and /or impressions created by the media, the BBC claiming this and the Daiy Mail putting out stoies of selected lazy 'benefit families', which is an utterly different matter to pointing out observations of the claims of a few posters on these and other boards who are accused of making comments which , logically, it is hardly surprising they should make, when they are pushing the pro mass immigration agenda.
AS I say, stik around CB100 and youll see for yourself! You cannot expect Citizen EMF myself and so on to keep notes of all the examples of lies, malice and hypocricy from pro mass immigrationists as evidence against them! Its just a debate board not the Old Bailey!
27,000,000 Romanians and Bulgarians+ 4,000,000 Moldovans gain the right to work here in
January 2014! Stop them now:http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/41492
Stop 4.3 m Croatians http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/47078
If you haven't kept notes then you don't know it is the same people making both sets of statements. All you have are your own unsupported generalisations.
Personally I find it hard to believe anyone would suggest that all British people are lazy when, self evidently that can not possibly be true. Equally to suggest there are not some British people that are lazy would also not seem plausible.
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