The Outrageous Racist Hypocrisy of Israel and World Zionism!

[LilyThePink]

Sorry, but there does. We are talking about two entirely separate questions here, one in which there is an abundance of potential evidence within which there MUST, if the Holocaust narrative is true, be at least one demonstrably genuine document authorising the deliberate murder of the Jews. It is inconceivable that the events allegedly forming the Holocaust narrative could have taken place in the way described without formal authorisation or at least some unequivocal reference to the process taking place.

As for domination of the mass media by organised Jewry, this is a matter that is much more difficult to substantiate unequivocally, because nationalists do not have access to the kind or volume of archive material that exists with regard to the Third Reich, and because governments are complicite in obscuring the truth.

It is entirely disingenuous to try to draw a parallel between the two matters.

Don't see where your must comes from, documents are flimsy things and are easily destroyed/lost among masses of lesser documents, we're not talking about solid relics here. You seem to be hinging your argument on the possible existence of such a document, but this is not the crux here, what is important is the survival and recognition of such a document, which makes your 'must' look even less likely.

If the Holocaust took place in the way described within the media Holocaust narrative, then it is inconceivable that not a single demonstrably genuine document exists among the thousands of tons of captured Nazi archives, which unequivocably mentions the intended mass murder of the Jews.

You've just flatly repeated yourself here, there is no 'must' and there is no inconceivability, for the reasons I have described

As to your final sentence, it is you who started going on about the holocaust here, and it is you who drew the parallel (post #63)

Your comments demonstrate the disingenuous nature of your position on this issue.

Er... I haven't taken up any position on any issue here, that is what my point was. You were the one who introduced the 'issue' in question.



Simply using the word 'disingenuous' a lot, and using blind repitition may serve to obscure points, but it's not very clever is it?

[Papa Luigi]

You've just flatly repeated yourself here, there is no 'must' and there is no inconceivability, for the reasons I have described.

Sorry Lily, you are mistaken, either that or you're being disingenuous.

Er... I haven't taken up any position on any issue here, that is what my point was. You were the one who introduced the 'issue' in question.

Only in the literal sense, but not in reality.

Simply using the word 'disingenuous' a lot, and using blind repitition may serve to obscure points, but it's not very clever is it?

Sorry Lily, you are mistaken, either that or you're being disingenuous.

[sidmouth]

If the Holocaust took place in the way described within the media Holocaust narrative, then it is inconceivable that not a single demonstrably genuine document exists among the thousands of tons of captured Nazi archives, which unequivocably mentions the intended mass murder of the Jews.



Your comments demonstrate the disingenuous nature of your position on this issue.

If the Holocaust is a fabrication in as much as the gas chambers were a complete invention and the deliberate systematic murder of the Jews a hateful lie against the Nazis then there MUST exist a demonstrably genuine document somewhere which spells out to the many thousands of decievers exactly how this lie should be delivered and disseminated. It is furthermore inconceivable that not one hoaxer has come forward to explain their part in the plot.

[Papa Luigi]

If the Holocaust is a fabrication in as much as the gas chambers were a complete invention and the deliberate systematic murder of the Jews a hateful lie against the Nazis then there MUST exist a demonstrably genuine document somewhere which spells out to the many thousands of decievers exactly how this lie should be delivered and disseminated. It is furthermore inconceivable that not one hoaxer has come forward to explain their part in the plot.

On the contrary, a number of individual hoaxers have been exposed as frauds, but they are unlikely to come forward voluntarily as they would do themselves out of a tidy pension if they did that.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha_Defonseca

See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardia...features11.g24

[sidmouth]

On the contrary, a number of individual hoaxers have been exposed as frauds, but they are unlikely to come forward voluntarily as they would do themselves out of a tidy pension if they did that.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misha_Defonseca

See: http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardia...features11.g24

No, you misunderstand. I am referring to the hoaxers who masterminded the hoax plot, not individual hoaxers who have fabricated personal accounts to sell a book.

[LilyThePink]

Sorry Lily, you are mistaken, either that or you're being disingenuous.

Only in the literal sense, but not in reality.

Sorry Lily, you are mistaken, either that or you're being disingenuous.

This is why you're 'stuck' Papa, it is often necessary to concede a point in order to move on (and no great loss either IMO).

Nationalism does not have to be a parochial and conceited ideology, but you seem to like it that way

[Sheepy]

That is right,Global Zionism is the problem,beating each other to death over something that happened 70 years ago has no bearing on what is happening today.

[Petrosal]

No, you misunderstand. I am referring to the hoaxers who masterminded the hoax plot, not individual hoaxers who have fabricated personal accounts to sell a book.

What you don't understand is that "organised Jewry control the mass media.", and you are being deceived.

Papa Mitty Luigi has asssured me he can prove that "organised Jewry control the mass media." (or did he say that he can't prove it?). Either way you are in trouble now because he is a multi millionaire from giving financial advice on mortgages that don't exist, plus he has an IQ that is total sum of everyone in the country.

Must dash as the men in white coats appear to be looking for Papa Mitty Luigi.

[Sheepy]

What you don't understand is that "organised Jewry control the mass media.", and you are being deceived.

Papa Mitty Luigi has asssured me he can prove that "organised Jewry control the mass media." (or did he say that he can't prove it?). Either way you are in trouble now because he is a multi millionaire from giving financial advice on mortgages that don't exist, plus he has an IQ that is total sum of everyone in the country.

Must dash as the men in white coats appear to be looking for Papa Mitty Luigi.

You ain't big on diversity then Petro.

[Tillerman]

No, you misunderstand. I am referring to the hoaxers who masterminded the hoax plot, not individual hoaxers who have fabricated personal accounts to sell a book.

He understood well enough. He just decided that nobody would notice his patented goalpost-moving maneuver.

What defies logic is that a 'Jewish' conspiracy on the level PaLu and his minions propose, one involving hundreds of thousands of individuals working in concert to defraud, could have persisted for seven decades without a single whistle-blower and the only people savvy to it just happen to be a small, politically insignificant gaggle of malcontents who don't appear to like Jews very much.