I accept that this iss a democracy forum and people generally are in favour of it. But, it seems that some have a slightly distorted view of what democracy is and even more so when it started in this fair land. . To suggest that we had anything recognizable as democracy before we had universal suffrage is to have a very lose view of the definition. So that's 1928 then ? Every thing before that just being a voting mechanism to allow the privileged to maintain there own interests ( some may say that never actually changed)
So, created in 1928 and then suspended again in 1931 till 1945 and then only in 1948 was the right of the privileged to vote more than once removed
So by any modern definition of Democracy we have had it a miserly 64 years, almost exactly the same as the NHS. the other european democracies are much the same, France didnt have universal suffrage till after the war, Germany had it early but then scrapped it in the 1930 as we did. Greece often quoted as the cradle of democracy, only since 1952
The current complaint that the EU is over turning centuries of democratic government is rather weak in the light of day. The complain that its been suspended in Greece even more so, as it was fine to scrap democracy here in the 1930s, because of economic factors but not apparent OK to do the same in the midst of the current problems ?
The rise of democracy in Weston Europe ran parallel to the post war Boom and its easy to conclude that deocratic governments give the most financial prosperity to the people of that country, but the rise of China in particular makes a lie of that as does the mockery of elections in Russia and a good few other pretend democracies
SO if the operations of a democracy is not the best model to feed and care for the population, is there really a moral case to make for operating one to the detriment of the people ? Particularly if the people are determined to make really bad financial choices out of a misplaced nationalism, as would no doubt occur if we had a referendum on EU membership