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    I must admit an interest in this company. When I stopped working per se in IT, I did a few private contracts. I was taken on by A4E to design and implement a Learn Direct Facility. After I got there, after a lot of stalling, it turned out they didnt actually have a budget, and i was conned. However, the idiot running it then offered me a job as 'Programme Tutor'. i accepted just to see what it involved. It turned out to be little more than state sponsored babysitting and bunch of wastral 18-25 year olds. Furthermore, I was pretty horrified to the 'creative accounting' that went on, and the blatant cheating I saw. I told him to stick it and left after two months, i didnt want any part of such blatant dishonesty.

    Are A4E a fit company? No, there a bunch of crooks, as will become apparent in the next few weeks. The Permanent Private Secretary for the DWP has been caught with his pants down trying to hush it all up, but theres nowhere to hide now.
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    I see any private company getting very rich on the tax payer as suspicious and the boss got very rich very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCG Jason View Post
    I see any private company getting very rich on the tax payer as suspicious and the boss got very rich very quickly.
    ATOS should also be investigated. With people being found fit for work one week and dropping dead a fortnight later there has to be something drastically wrong.

    The horror stories of the genuinely sick being forced to join the dole queue are growing daily as are the numbers appealing against their decisions, costing the tax payer £1 million a week.

    IDS is simply a hatchet man brought in to save the government money by putting sick people on a lower benefit under the guise of helping them back to work when there in no work and he knows it.

    Then they close all the Remploy factories which used to employ the disabled.

    As far as A4E are concerned,how they can find that bunch of crooks unfit to have the contract for the South East but fit to hold it for the rest of the country I do not know. ( Well I do. It's seats on boards and jobs as "advisors " and "consultants " for the promotors of the deal when they lose their seats in parliament.)

    All in this together? Too blóody right they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Overdere View Post
    Then they close all the Remploy factories which used to employ the disabled.
    More ridiculous job creation schemes. Remploy is a scandalously inefficient way of helping the disabled. They should have shut the whole thing down 20 years ago.

    As far as A4E are concerned,how they can find that bunch of crooks unfit to have the contract for the South East but fit to hold it for the rest of the country I do not know. All in this together? Too blóody right they are.
    The "all in it together" phrase post dates the Labour government that awarded all these ridiculous work creation schemes to A4E. So, "credit" where it is due..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CB100 View Post
    More ridiculous job creation schemes. Remploy is a scandalously inefficient way of helping the disabled. They should have shut the whole thing down 20 years ago.



    The "all in it together" phrase post dates the Labour government that awarded all these ridiculous work creation schemes to A4E. So, "credit" where it is due..
    "The government's Mandatory Work Activity programme was launched by the coalition in May 2010.The government recently cancelled one work programme contract with A4e after an audit found "significant weaknesses" in their management systems."

    I note that Grayling is now calling into question the integrity of the whistle blower, the ex auditor of A4E. It sounds like desperation to me.

    And this seems to indicate they've run out of excuses and are looking for someone else to blame. " In his letter Mr Duncan Smith said the committee had only received a "limited amount of information" and that to "ensure complete openness" advice provided to previous ministers should be passed to his department."

    Surely it was down to him to check all that before he gave them the new contract which replaced Labour's one.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18204561
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    Amusing that labour are trying to blame the current government for this mess. They set it up. They are responsible.

    However the real scandal is not the level of fraud, because that would suggest that fraud was the only way of wasting public money. No, the real scandal is the fact that the contracts were and are still being awarded at all. Fraud or not, it still results in the vast bulk of the money achieving very little. But that apparently isn't a scandal worth the media commenting on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Overdere View Post
    "The government's Mandatory Work Activity programme was launched by the coalition in May 2010.The government recently cancelled one work programme contract with A4e after an audit found "significant weaknesses" in their management systems."

    I note that Grayling is now calling into question the integrity of the whistle blower, the ex auditor of A4E. It sounds like desperation to me.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18204561

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    Check this video.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-over-A4e.html

    He reckons it is a "multibillion pound fraud". Maybe that's why the hearing is in secret.
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    The whole concept of public money being spent on job creation schemes is fundamentally flawed. Same with Business Links with business support. They are all the same and achieve very little, even if there were no fraud. It was great that the government closed the Business Links. It's a pity they didn't pull out of all the job creations schemes as well.

    That's politics for you - they have to to appear to be doing something even when they know it involves pushing water up hill...

    Quote Originally Posted by internetcynic View Post
    I must admit an interest in this company. When I stopped working per se in IT, I did a few private contracts. I was taken on by A4E to design and implement a Learn Direct Facility. After I got there, after a lot of stalling, it turned out they didnt actually have a budget, and i was conned. However, the idiot running it then offered me a job as 'Programme Tutor'. i accepted just to see what it involved. It turned out to be little more than state sponsored babysitting and bunch of wastral 18-25 year olds. Furthermore, I was pretty horrified to the 'creative accounting' that went on, and the blatant cheating I saw. I told him to stick it and left after two months, i didnt want any part of such blatant dishonesty.

    Are A4E a fit company? No, there a bunch of crooks, as will become apparent in the next few weeks. The Permanent Private Secretary for the DWP has been caught with his pants down trying to hush it all up, but theres nowhere to hide now.

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