Bring back Hanging

[SDP]

It's a dilemma. I still think it is nye on impossible to reinstate it after abolition though.

But if the UK's crime situation continues to worsen, wherein not even terrorists & other criminals can be deported, then this will become a moot point in time as the people take matters into their own hands.

Marilyn

First let me agree with you. It will be almost impossible to bring back hanging. Britain is governed by a liberal elite that think they know what is best for us. These upper crust people form Eton, Harrow, Oxford and Cambridge are the ones that took us into the Common Market and refuse us a referendum on EU membership.

[SDP]

Marilyn

My second point is what is you definintion of an innocent man. Most crime is committed by reoffenders. There was a recent case where a man of 30 just got his 100th criminal conviction. If the innocent man was a gangster with a long criminal record but was wronly convicted, is he an innocent man even though he may have already killed many people in the past ? People still call him an innocent man.

[medrussia]

Innocent people are often killed in this world

Road Accidents
Should we ban the motor car because innocent people are killed every day ?

Disease
Should we ban all immigration because some immigrants bring in disease that kills innocent people ?

AIDS
The killer disease AIDS kills many innocent who have unfaithful partners, but we accept this as OK.

Nuclear Bombs
Britain is willing to use the nuclear bomb in self defience, and kill millions of innocent people in the process.

The War in Iraq
It has been estimated the over 100,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq but we accept this as necessary.

World War II
Total deaths were about 50 million in World War II. About half of these were innocent civilians but this was accepted as necessary.

You really are vile and display an ignorance and hatred of the working class. Now go neg rep me again for my use of free speech. BTW execution is more expensive for the public purse (USA references) than life in prison. The legal system at al. Back to the grave with you

[SDP]

You really are vile and display an ignorance and hatred of the working class. Now go neg rep me again for my use of free speech. BTW execution is more expensive for the public purse (USA references) than life in prison. The legal system at al. Back to the grave with you

medrussia

In this world are two types of people. The good guys and the bad guys.

I am on the side of the good guys, you are arguing in support of the bad guys.

[SDP]

medrussia

Try to look at life from the point of view of the victims of crime. If it was a member of your family that was murdered, raped and tortured to death by a sex fiend, would you be so fllippant about the concerns of the victims of crime.

[SDP]

medrussia

I love the working class. The working class have never been asked about hanging. All opinion polls to date have shown a majority in support for the death penalty within the working class.

When I hear of a child or woman raped, tortured and murdered I think how would I feel if that was my child or my wife. These are not statistics they were living people, that breathed, walked and had feelings.

My heart goes out to those young victims, and the awful way in which their tragic lives came to such a vilolent, humiliating end.

[SDP]

medrussia

I dont know how you can say that hanging would be more expensive.

The average cost of a prisoner is £1000 week. A high security prisoner would cost a lot more.

Lets take a 25 year sentence for a particularly nasty violent murder.

25 years
times 50 weeks
times £1000 a year

25 x 50 x £1000 = £1,250,000

I cannot see why hanging should cost more than £1,250.000. Really evil killers like Ian Brady might spend double this time in jail. The most evil killers would be in high security prisons, which cost even more to stop them escaping and doing it all over again.

[SDP]

medrussia

Some killers have escaped from prison and killed again.

What would you say to the families of those victims ?

[Besoeker]

The problem is when 20 years down the line you find out you hung the wrong man.


Not really possible to dig them up, reanimate them and apologise by then.

Nor can you give them back the twenty years that they've been incarcerated but I suppose it's the lesser of two evils.
Better not to have wrongly convicted him in the first place but it happens.

[SDP]

Nor can you give them back the twenty years that they've been incarcerated but I suppose it's the lesser of two evils.
Better not to have wrongly convicted him in the first place but it happens.

Besoeker

But if they had been executed they could go to heaven, knowing that they gave their lives in the cause of justice and public safety. Their life would not have been wasted. Their life would have been a deterent to other sex fiends not to kill people in the future.

But if they were guilty, then they could go to hell and be in very good company.