The Guardian stats are meaningless without knowing the seriousness of each of the cases and how this is analysed between the different ethnic groups.
Originally Posted by Patman Post
The Guardian stats are meaningless without knowing the seriousness of each of the cases and how this is analysed between the different ethnic groups.
Apparently it isn't. Your first link contains nothing about Muslims.
The second article is from the far Left Guardian, so it ranks somewhere along the lines of bog paper for factual reading.
It also does not prove or even pretend to prove that Muslims are targeted by the police an judiciary. In fact I don't think it even mentions religion.
Of course it does mention ethnicity and colour. Why are you bring race into it? Are you racist?
I never mentioned race. You mentioned race in your other post as well, you definitely sound like you are racist, as you can't stop mentioning it.
Last edited by Road_Hog; 22-05-2012 at 02:05 PM.
So Baroness Warsi speaks out after being told to do so by her dad. 'Lady Warsi, Britain's most senior Muslim politician, said she had decided to speak out after her father - who moved to the UK from the Punjab - told her she should be "out there condemning it as loudly as you could".'
Is she a typical pakistani girl, at her fathers command, rather than relying on her own conscience?
Last edited by dloper; 22-05-2012 at 01:41 PM.
The reason there is so little crime in Germany is that it's against the law.
Do you have a link to a video of her father telling her this or is this just gossip
Interview at http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/p...d-7766362.html
The reason there is so little crime in Germany is that it's against the law.
Thanks for that. Great stuff.
I take it, that the idea she spoke up about this problem is she is working together with everyone, that to me is brave, we do not have to then enlighten the problem towards one race or sector of the population if we have someone from that sector broadcasts that not all people from one sector would act in this way, this is one huge step forward, we need to join together in hands to show that we will not be beaten by anyone who brings harm to children.
One of the most poignant times in my life was listening to the the man who lost his son through the riots, what hurt he must have felt, what hurt he feels, put yourself in his shoes, this was the most heart felt sentiment from a man who has to endure pain and suffering throughout his life.
What annoys me about the way Baroness Warsi handled this was that if she'd had real courage she would have been among the first to speak out instead of waiting to see which way the wind blows. She's been outspoken in the past about islamophobia but now, with the current acknowledgement that muslim gang rape is an issue, she's decided that it's time to speak. Bandwagoning is the word that springs to mind.
She also made a big mistake in giving the impression that she spoke at her fathers behest. It merely re-enforces the perception that Islam is autocratic. A senior politician under the sway of her father, because of alien cultural and religious beliefs? Utterly distasteful!
Last edited by dloper; 27-05-2012 at 03:09 PM.
The reason there is so little crime in Germany is that it's against the law.
She has the right to look at things and determine from her own mind whether she should work within these guidlines, as I have said before I am as open as a book and speak as it is, she has not hidden in the closset, she has come out and condemned this action, it does not matter to me whether she is the first or the last, she has actually come out and said it, that is the main thing, if you miss the point of someone realising that something is wrong, you miss the point altogether, the point is that we are all there to stop a problem, if it is a problem on one side or another we are all united in stopping it from happening, it's so good to find everyone working for the same goal in life, to keep children safe.
No, no, no.
She has:
1, After YEARS of critisizing others for speaking out over these same crimes and lying abot them hapening, finally "come out".
2, She hasn't just made Her own mind up, She was TOLD to, by Her Father. ( A rather nice chap actually).
3, The fact that She has come to the decisssion after many YEARS, makes Her part of the problem, not part of the soultion.
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