Congratulations to all who were born in the 1940s, 50s and 60s.

[Steve Morson]

I really don't think you can put all or even most incidents of type 2 diabetes, heart, liver and lung disease, high blood pressure etc etc. down as self inflicted. Most people getting those sort of ailments are the older generation and their accepted lifestyle and diet was perfectly normal for most of their lives and it's only in comparitively recent years we've had the government and doctors trying to persuade us to have five a day etc. Many are caused by malfunctioning organs as people get older.

Even then,one is constantly reading conflicting reports.This is bad for you one week and good for you two weeks later. Take this,don't take this take that. Statins are a case in point. Every other week they will either kill you or cure you. Aspirin ditto.One week it can cause stomach bléeding,next it's preventing cancer.

What puzzled me when I was diagnosed with Type 2, was that although I realised I was overweight and had a poor diet (due to working ridiculous hours), but I would've thought that one needed a genetic predisposition to it?

My pill-pushing GP practice are desperate to get me onto statins, and there was a report on the main news in USA last week about a new study out. I prefer this one.

Spot on summary, Francis.

[Road_Hog]

What puzzled me when I was diagnosed with Type 2, was that although I realised I was overweight and had a poor diet (due to working ridiculous hours), but I would've thought that one needed a genetic predisposition to it?

My pill-pushing GP practice are desperate to get me onto statins, and there was a report on the main news in USA last week about a new study out. I prefer this one.

Spot on summary, Francis.

I hate taking any more pills than I really have to and statins give your liver a pounding.

[CB100]

I listened to a specialist talking about this on the radio a few weeks ago. He said it was almost exclusively life style related. So whilst not everyone that is overweight has type 2 diabetes, of those that do have it, 90% are over weight.

Type 2 diabetes now makes up 85% to 90% of all cases of diabetes and it is largely (pardon the pun) avoidable by making the right choices - balanced diet and regular excercise.

What puzzled me when I was diagnosed with Type 2, was that although I realised I was overweight and had a poor diet (due to working ridiculous hours), but I would've thought that one needed a genetic predisposition to it?

My pill-pushing GP practice are desperate to get me onto statins, and there was a report on the main news in USA last week about a new study out. I prefer this one.

Spot on summary, Francis.

[Francis Overdere]

Speaking as someone who was fit as a fiddle till i was mid 50's, i can tell you i have Type 2 diabetes, ive had a heart attack and surgery for bowel cancer. I now take statins, asprin, bisprolol and rampiril. Ive been turned into a pill popper from someone who never had a day of sick in 40 years

On a bynote, the heart attack saved my life............no really. I was lucky with the heart attack as well, i collapsed in reception at work Monday 10 o'clock, they whisked me off to hospital, the nurse told me they were doing stents on Wednesday, so i had a stent in within 48 hours, and they threw me out on Friday. After that I was put on the standard handful of pills heart attack victims get, including Rampiril, a blood thinning drug, effectively turns you into a hemophiliac. When I got a tumor in my bowel year later, it was only detected because i became anemic and exhausted, which was due to the tumor bleeding because my blood was thinner than water because of the rampiril, they lopped out the bad bit within 3 months of spotting it. So if i hadn't had the heart attack i wouldn't have been on blood thinning drugs and so wouldn't have got anemic and so they wouldn't have found the tumor, and almost certainly wouldn't have found it for months, possibly too late.

When the Hematology guy checked my haemoglobin count, its was 4.7, in normal healthy people its 15. He said he's never seen a count so low, and couldn't understand why i was still conscious and walking round............... :S

Well if you are on IB and about to be assessed for ESA get all the advice and help you can first.

[Francis Overdere]

I listened to a specialist talking about this on the radio a few weeks ago. He said it was almost exclusively life style related. So whilst not everyone that is overweight has type 2 diabetes, of those that do have it, 90% are over weight.

Type 2 diabetes now makes up 85% to 90% of all cases of diabetes and it is largely (pardon the pun) avoidable by making the right choices - balanced diet and regular excercise.

I see today's medical advance is that "Calcium supplements, taken by millions of elderly people and post-menopausal women to prevent bone thinning, may double the risk of having a heart attack, a study has found."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1337784701055A

So if anyone has a heart attack now they can blame that.

I'm just hoping that they suddenly find out that Australian shiraz is in fact the elixir of life.

[CB100]

If you look back over years of various medical news stories, there has been a whole host of contradictory reports. First something is bad for you, then it's good for you, then it's bad for you.

However I doubt we will ever get a respected medical organsisation to come forward with the suggestion that smoking is good for you or that over weight leads to longer life expectancy.

I see today's medical advance is that "Calcium supplements, taken by millions of elderly people and post-menopausal women to prevent bone thinning, may double the risk of having a heart attack, a study has found."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukp...1337784701055A

So if anyone has a heart attack now they can blame that.

I'm just hoping that they suddenly find out that Australian shiraz is in fact the elixir of life.

[Francis Overdere]

If you look back over years of various medical news stories, there has been a whole host of contradictory reports. First something is bad for you, then it's good for you, then it's bad for you.

However I doubt we will ever get a respected medical organsisation to come forward with the suggestion that smoking is good for you or that over weight leads to longer life expectancy.

If they said they killed you quicker but made you irrestible to 25 year old women with big títs there would be a lot of fat smokers about though.

[CB100]

Well I'm sure many men would go for that option.

My Dad used to tell a joke about a guy going to the doctors who asks how he can live longer. "Eat a fresh salad for breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day for the rest of your life and never drink alchohol", says the doc. The man says, "and this will make me live longer?". The doc replies, "probably not, but it will definitely feel like it".

If they said they killed you quicker but made you irrestible to 25 year old women with big títs there would be a lot of fat smokers about though.

[internetcynic]

Well if you are on IB and about to be assessed for ESA get all the advice and help you can first.

Nah, im not a dole scrounger. I live on the company pension and im my mothers carer. No one gets ESA these days, they set on a private company to throw thousands of people off it, including my friends wife who really is virtually crippled with arthritis at the age of 50. The idea that she is fit to work is laughable, she can barely get to the toilet on a bad day.

[Francis Overdere]

Nah, im not a dole scrounger. I live on the company pension and im my mothers carer. No one gets ESA these days, they set on a private company to throw thousands of people off it, including my friends wife who really is virtually crippled with arthritis at the age of 50. The idea that she is fit to work is laughable, she can barely get to the toilet on a bad day.

There are some terrible stories about ATOS and appeals are at a record high.

Make sure you are getting all the help you should be.

http://www.turn2us.org.uk/?gclid=CNu...FYpjfAod23CDaQ