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    Question Is 'home ownership' a dubious concept?

    I feel that maybe it could be.

    You spend twenty-five years or longer ‘paying up’ a house which, when the mortgage is discharged, you notionally ‘own’. But if any things of value, like oil or precious metals, are found within the curtilage, and which you also notionally ‘own’, judging by most of the house deeds I’ve seen, these valuables revert to somebody else – not you.

    Also, if you want to make alterations to your home, ‘permission’ is often required before carrying out such alterations. In most cases ‘permission’ is obtained from your local authority. But in Scotland, also from your ‘superior’, the person who owned the land before houses were built on it. He or she is typically a member of the aristocracy whose estates office acts on his/her behalf. For normal ‘alterations’, like garages and extensions, superior permission is seldom withheld, provided the council is happy. But superiors can refuse permissions, and in those cases, long, costly and nerve-wracking appeals typically ensue, mainly benefitting the legal profession of course.

    Then, throughout your ownership of a home you must keep both it and its grounds in good condition, all of which is laborious and/or costly. Competent gardeners are rare and expensive.

    Furthermore, if your bought home finds itself unfortunate enough to be positioned in a spot that politicians earmark for ‘development’, you can be served with a compulsory purchase order. The council values your home and there’s normally no choice but to accept that valuation, sell up and move out in line with a strict pre-determined timetable. Yes! Move out of your home – the one you’ve assiduously paid for and lavished love and attention on for years - just to suit ‘society’.

    How unfair!

    In addition, there are ‘leaseholds’.

    But those apart, on the ‘upside’ – if you can call it that – most well-behaved home ‘owners’ end up with a nice place to stay, in an area that suits them, and have something to sell for (usually) a handsome profit or to pass on to their children after their deaths. However, because by this stage ‘the children’ usually have their own homes, and often ‘better’ ones than those in which they were raised (at least they think so), they sell the home that you bought by ‘paying up’ for years (and which has probably been ‘paid up’ by others several times in the past) to some young working person who starts ‘paying it up’ all over again. And so the process meanders on until your house reaches the end of its serviceable life, or the developers move in and knock it down to make way for a new bypass or whatever. After all, land takes precedence over any house built on it.

    Consequently, can you blame me for suspecting that ‘home ownership’ is an idea far more designed to serve the state than individuals, not least given the enormous amounts of cash that local authorities extract annually from homeowners in the form of council tax and the vast fortunes made by those in the financial world from mortgages?

    By and large, buildings outlast people by a considerable margin. ‘Society’ needs real estate, but doesn’t like paying for it. So did ‘society’ devise a scheme that was mainly designed to make ‘the people’ pay for it instead – indefinitely?

    I cannot help wondering...
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    The whole argument for home ownership is simple. Rent is dead money you never get back. Mortgage payments are money that you get back plus profit.

    Of course, the problem then its it creates a spiral of increasing house costs until no one can afford to get into the housing market, and then the bubble bursts.
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    Home ownership gives you the chance of living where you want to live, in a home that you are happy living in, or the next step forward to what you want, that's in my eyes.
    When I was first married our house had an outside toilet, no bath, £2p/wk rent, it was dilapitated, covered in spiders, with an a gas ascot heater, the flames used to hit the ceiling, I was terrified, but with help from my parents we made it liveable, 1973, my husband lost his job, bacon sandwiches on a Saturday as a treat. I could go to a little Aladins Cave and put things away that I liked until it was paid for. I bathed in a baby bath in front of a coal fire. The spare room had dry rot we could not use it, and the bedroom had dampness, when you awoke in the morning the top cover would be soaking wet. So we saved.
    Yes, it's changed, we have our own home, central heating, a bath, combi boiler, no dry rot and the covers are dry, dying, I heard too much of that from the Labour government, it's depressing, your here live it, that's what we are here for.

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    Home ownership gives you the chance of living where you want to live, in a home that you are happy living in, or the next step forward to what you want, that's in my eyes.
    LOL I dont think many people ever achieve the home they want where they want, for most of us its a big compromise.
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    The laws are there for a reason. I own some land, and if I wanted to build a small private airport on a field close to the village would I have the right to do that, should I have the right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddy4paws View Post
    I feel that maybe it could be.

    You spend twenty-five years or longer ‘paying up’ a house which, when the mortgage is discharged, you notionally ‘own’.
    Don't worry, the globalists and the UN with Agenda 21 are going to solve your conundrum. Private individuals will no longer be allowed to own their homes. You'll all be living in some eco city (crammed in flats/apartments). They'll also ban car ownership as well, so you won't have to worry about that.

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