US whites heading for minority - Telegraph

[LilyThePink]

The Americans did it via deliberate terror, murder and violence. Now the tables are being turned.. but being done incidentally via natural population expansion.... and you can do damn all about it...

This is unfair, the vast majority of American settlers were not malicious, and this could also have been described as 'natural population expansion' (you take immigration as a 'natural' here, so the simile works)

I must say, you do make a nice change from the Hollywood Nazis on here, being their opposite number. they do tend to obscure the view and distort perspective.


(I'm waiting for someone to post that 'How whites conquered America here' again, this thread is ripe for it) I must say, I found it thought provoking.

[Road_Hog]

The Americans did it via deliberate terror, murder and violence. Now the tables are being turned.. but being done incidentally via natural population expansion.... and you can do damn all about it...

Enjoy your holiday in Egypt.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ult-Egypt.html

[Papa Luigi]

The Americans did it via deliberate terror, murder and violence. Now the tables are being turned.. but being done incidentally via natural population expansion.... and you can do damn all about it...

What you are trying to say here Magwash is that Whites colonised America by force of arms, which is entirely true. However, the Amerinds colonised America by force of arms also, exterminating the white, originally European Clovis people who were the aboriginal people of North America.

None of this however makes the recolonisation of the US by Amerinds justifiable, unless of course you believe in the concept of 'collective guilt' and feel that the modern generation of White Americans should be held responsible and punished for the alleged 'sins' of their forefathers. If so, on the basis of collective guilt, we can hold all members of a race responsible for the all of the crimes committed by any one or more of their people going back to the beginning of time.

Is this what you had in mind? ... ... No I didn't think so!

[Mafeking]

How did america become white in the first place? Wasn't it through Genocide ?

Through the spread of disease, for which whites may hardly be held responsible, through displacement, sometimes violent but more usually by treaty, and lastly by miscegination, which led to many tribes, particularly in the east, becoming indistinguishable from whites over the roughly two hundred years of the colonial period.

Tribes of the South and South-west, incidentally, were rather large on slave ownership, while those to the north of them, in Comancheria and Oklahoma/south Kansas, were given to tribal violence, usually against smaller tribes, as a way of life. It is the case that by the 1850s the Comanches, fond of kidnapping and enslavement, are thought to have comprised less than 40% true Comanche, the remainder being Mexican Indian, Hispanic, French, Anglos, and negros. The John Wayne films do not match the reality.

There is, however, the fact that far more Indians died at the hands of other Indians than ever did at the hands of whites.

I suggest you search out and acquaint yourself with a few from any number of perfectly respectable academic or even general reading books, and there slake your thirst for knowledge on the subject.

[Astarté]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/wa...#disqus_thread

You know when people lived in caves - or up trees, or wherever it was that survival drove them - when resources were scarce and life genuinely precarious, it was perhaps rather more understandable that people were driven by tribalism, by a sense that one had to kill or protect oneself from anyone outside of your own tribe.

Mental evolution, it would seem, still has rather further to go with some people.

There is no such thing as race. Skin colour is irrelevant. We do not live in caves any more.

[LilyThePink]

There is no such thing as race. Skin colour is irrelevant. We do not live in caves any more.

Are you a shill for the left, or a troll for the right, I can't work it out?

[Astarté]

A shill for the left?? A troll for the right?? Oh yes, I forgot: this a forum where expressing one's opinion ends up with such daft expressions of viral paranoia.

Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right

It's a simple enough proposition: we are all part of one species, race is a myth and the survival of the human species depends not on overcoming the herds of woolly mammoth, but on recognising that man's greatest threat to his own survival... is man.

If that concept is a little sophisticated for some people, well I am not surprised.

[LilyThePink]

A shill for the left?? A troll for the right?? Oh yes, I forgot: this a forum where expressing one's opinion ends up with such daft expressions of viral paranoia.

Clowns to the left of me
Jokers to the right

It's a simple enough proposition: we are all part of one species, race is a myth and the survival of the human species depends not on overcoming the herds of woolly mammoth, but on recognising that man's greatest threat to his own survival... is man.

If that concept is a little sophisticated for some people, well I am not surprised.

The concept of race is not incompatible with the statement that we are all one species, there is no need to label it as a myth.

What people do with this concept may be questionable, but the concept remains all the same.

[Seymour Stilch]

There is no such thing as race. Skin colour is irrelevant. We do not live in caves any more.

According to the Yanks, Bin Laden lived in a cave while he planned 911.

I forgot how funny you can be.

Isn't it, and wasn't it, people like you who got us in this position in the first place? And who work tirelessly to keep us there.

Bloody liberals!

[Papa Luigi]

You know when people lived in caves - or up trees, or wherever it was that survival drove them - when resources were scarce and life genuinely precarious, ...

Astarté, it seems your knowledge of human prehistory is rather sketchy to say the least. I wouldn't go formulating any opinions based on what little you do know, until you've spent some time gaining an education.

... when resources were scarce and life genuinely precarious, it was perhaps rather more understandable that people were driven by tribalism, by a sense that one had to kill or protect oneself from anyone outside of your own tribe.

Not so. It was during the Paleolithic that we Europeans were few in number and cut off from the rest of sub-Saharan and Asian humanity, and had no need to employ tribalism to ward off threats from other humans.

There is no such thing as race.

It seems your knowledge of physical anthropology is worse than your knowledge of human prehistory. You are in need of an education!

Skin colour is irrelevant.

Well, don't take any African holidays unless you have a good supply of sunblock with you. Oh, and be careful of walking around certain inner city centres late at night, because your skin colour will be most relevant in terms of maintaining your safety.

We do not live in caves any more.

Yes we do, rectangular, man made caves. Furthermore, the kind of man made cave one lives in has a high level of correlation to our race. Some races living in mud huts, or dwellings made of dhobi brick, whereas White people tend to live in dwellings made of fired clay bricks and ceramic roof tiles.

It's a simple enough proposition: ... the survival of the human species depends ... on recognising that man's greatest threat to his own survival... is man.

Or to put it more precisely, now that our planet has become so overcrowded and we are forced to compete with others for diminishing, finite, natural resources, our survival depends upon us forming alliances and reinforcing bonds with other humans of similar character, individuals of common descent, with similar customs, similar physical and mental characteristics and similar temperament - in short - of the same race and ethnicity.

If that concept is a little sophisticated for some people, then I suggest they get a real-world education.