Racists: What we do (compilation pic)

[flamingreen]

You must endeavour to stop telling other people what you think they are and what is going on in their minds.

It is perfectly reasonable to suggest whats going on in peoples minds when they come out with claims which fly in the face of evidence.

It is a sign that you cannot argue.

No it is a sign that I have identified a claim you have made which cannot be anything but wishful thinking because there is no evidence for it.

You simply do not know that I am "in denial" and I can assure you that I am not.

Then do not make incorrect claims which suggest you are.

Further, if you knew anything about the kind of work carried out in the design and manufacture as well as the project management of some of the world's most advanced constructions at present you would know that they draw their personnel from various race groups and nations.

That is common knowledge DeeDee.

White people were not always advanced intellectually or technologically.

That is quite correct, and I didnt suggest or imply they were.
However sub saharan Africans at no point in history were advanced intellectually or technologically.

This came to us through the contacts we made with other groups as well as through native ingenuity.

That is true, however they were all 'out of African' groups.

Mother Nature didn't sit down and say to herself "I am going to make a bunch of palefaces who are like gods and can make anything and everything and another bunch with dark skins whom I shall make stupid, backward and untalented, except for running and dancing, and then I shall make the Jews who shall be evil and the enemies of the godlike beauties with pale skins."

Absolutely correct, and I implied no design and no hierarchy. It is only you suggesting I did, as well as making insinuations of Nazism (always the resort of the Globalist who has lost it!)

It is you who may be in denial

No, its you in denial of gene pool differences.
What are you suggetsing I am even in denial of?

Mother Nature simply watched whilst humanity evolved and in certain environments certain humans devised certain contraptions.

Exactly.

For example the horse is responsible for a great deal of wheeled travel.

No DeeDee, they are certainly not 'responsible' for it, they are used by humans to complement it.

There were no horses in Africa. There were no horses in North America either until the Spanish introduced them to the natives. The manner in which the native Americans learned to ride and train horses and use them in battle was phenomenal. That is because they were there and they made use of what was there. They learned to use guns too as General Custer discovered.

And the point youre making is?

Some African tribes had reached the iron age. The Zulus had devised an excellent reaping tool and a blade used in warfare that was cutting a swathe through their rivals. The Anglo-Saxons had wonderful metal workers and swords. So did the Celts, the Samurai and the Arabs. The Arabs had magnifying lenses they traded to the Norse. the Norse devised sun positioning via sunstones. This is human ingenuity. The Muslims breached the walls of Constantinople with advanced cannon and warfare tactics and huge Asian armies. An example of what happens in the real world when something that was glorious gives way and dies. It wasn't a race thing, it was just the result of progress of one side whilst another fell to ruin.

NO progress is down to a few clever individuals, of which there are more in some ethnic groups than others.

There is a very unfortunate tendency to presume everyone who isn't a racist is a liberal. This isn't so.

There certainly is, an error I never make. Most people who set themselves up as actively 'anti racist' are anything but liberal; they are utterly intolerant of anyone who disagrees with their views.

I am certainly not one.

Ok.

There is a tendency to believe that people who aren't racists are "in denial".

I dont think there is any such tendency.
What do you understand by the word 'racist'? You seem happy to bandy it about. What is a racist? I do not consider myself a 'racist' at all, but I that doesnt mean I have to pretend all gene pools produce exactly the same mix of phenotypes. They dont.

This isn't so.

Its certainly not. There are plenty fo people who I dont consider racist who are not in denial about ethnic differences, although many are reluctant to admit it openly for fear of being labelled racist.

However, the world consists of many different kinds of culture and of these some had better opportunities to discover ways of inventing technology. Our own ancestors were very primitive whilst Rome was very advanced. But Greece came before Rome and Rome learned much from Greece. Egypt and Carthage were flourishing when some white tribes were struggling to survive. Sumeria was the earliest civilization in the fertile crescent. Sumeria wasn't white or European. This argument from race is not going to get anyone anywhere.

I dont think anyone is arguing 'white Europeans' are 'best'. I am not. I am arguing that there are ethnic and Racial differences, which go beyond skin colour, and which all the scientific and historical evidence points to including average IQ too.

It is better to argue for the freedom to decide how one wants to live and with whom. Personally, my view of the human race is low. They are a disappointingly barbarous species and although I belong to this by default I do not like it much in its primitive and primordial manifestation, in its mania for religions and in its inability to refrain from alcohol and recreational drugs. I detest its love of war and I literally hate its cruelty and prejudice.

Trying to find some godlike manifestation of our species that you can belong to with any confidence that there hasn't been some terrible animalistic period in your past is wishful thinking. Up until recently frontier towns populated by whites were horrific violent no man's lands of crime and brutality, filth and chaos and disease. Civilization, as such, requires effort from the population and when the population is oppressed huge pockets of deprived and angry people are shut out of any benefit accruing to the workers who build and maintain civilization. This is where humanity errs every time. It cannot control its desire to self elect top dogs who take all the wealth and order everyone else around, often inventing religions to make this look like the will of some powerful deity. Superstition and ignorance keep this status quo. Then everything falls and humans have to begin again.

If one removed the negatives from the human species and its civilizations and replaced them with positives that would keep it going and control its resources the world would look quite different from its present scattering of rich and variations of deprived peoples.

If nations were free to make positive civilizations based on sane rational judgement and rule there would be no need for economic refugees or utility immigrants for cheap labour. These are the world's evils perpetrated by humanity and circumstance. Here is where the solution to all this misery lies.

Sorry I dont think there is a solution. Wishful thinking again.

[Mr Rob]

It is only you suggesting I did, as well as making insinuations of Nazism (always the resort of the Globalist who has lost it!)

Dee-Dee the Globalist?

Wow, have you lost it on this thread!

[Rebirth]

I think too many people have been brainwashed with the 'Racism Propaganda' epidemic. Fact is, it is only ever directed towards white people, which suits the globalist agenda to smash down 'identity' in the west.

Support the globalists, or you are a racist.

Whilst the individual can usually be rational, as a whole, people tend to live a lie, because society has programmed them too. This is probably why we have so many trolls on here screaming 'racism' everyday, whilst never being able to produce a single rational sentence.

That's fine and all, but to hear the accusations coming from Jew Hating Islamist Nazis is somewhat disturbing, but it does highlight the above.

[SteveShark]

I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question posed in post #90.

I'm starting to think that certain people are avoiding answering it, because they may find their own answer unpalatable...

[flamingreen]

Dee-Dee the Globalist?

Wow, have you lost it on this thread!

NO idea if Dee Dee is a globalist or not, but I do know that she made insinuations of Nazism with her reference to nasty Jews, and I know that Globalists frequently do such mud slinging whenever their arguments fail. I did not say Dee Dee is a globalist, but she is certainly talking like one.

[flamingreen]

I'm still waiting for someone to answer my question posed in post #90.

I'm starting to think that certain people are avoiding answering it, because they may find their own answer unpalatable...

I hadnt even read your quetion. Its a totally daft scenario, that proves nothing, but that apart, the results table would be nothing LIKE the current tables (quite apart from the fact that the results would be abysmal), chance would play such a huge role in who was selected that teh results would be quite random.Some countries would cheat too, which would be very easy as most non athletic types would opt out, and any country whose citizens were keen enough for a national win that they were willing to sacrifice personal ambition to medal winning by having more weaker athletes opt out allowing the selection to be from top athletes only could walk it. My money would be on China.

[Rebirth]

It's all about who can scream the loudest. The left actually employ people to scream on this forum, but even though they do scream the most, they will never have the brains to actually validate their lunacy.

A house brick could be the leader of Labour and it would still get support.

[SteveShark]

I hadnt even read your quetion. Its a totally daft scenario, that proves nothing, but that apart, the results table would be nothing LIKE the current tables (quite apart from the fact that the results would be abysmal), chance would play such a huge role in who was selected that teh results would be quite random.Some countries would cheat too, which would be very easy as most non athletic types would opt out, and any country whose citizens were keen enough for a national win that they were willing to sacrifice personal ambition to medal winning by having more weaker athletes opt out allowing the selection to be from top athletes only could walk it. My money would be on China.

It was a simple question, one that you thought was stupid, but then you seemed quite willing to include your own variation on the scenario and then you went on to avoid answering it.

It was straightforward enough: teams picked randomly from the participating nations. No secret shenanigans, leaving out the weaker ones, etc, etc. As it's a purely hypothetical exercise, no cheating is going on.

The scenario itself doesn't prove anything - it's people's answers that may do that.

So, would the black nations win all the track events?

Would they fail in the pool events?

[flamingreen]

It was a simple question, one that you thought was stupid, but then you seemed quite willing to include your own variation on the scenario and then you went on to avoid answering it.

It was straightforward enough: teams picked randomly from the participating nations. No secret shenanigans, leaving out the weaker ones, etc, etc. As it's a purely hypothetical exercise, no cheating is going on.

The scenario itself doesn't prove anything - it's people's answers that may do that.

So, would the black nations win all the track events?

Would they fail in the pool events?

No they certainly wouldnt because as you said the selection would be random, and the numbers would be small so they wouldnt in any wya represent the talent or lack of it in their country. Nigeria for example might end up with an overweight fifty year old politician representing them in the mens 100 metres, while China might just be lucky and happenchance select an excellent athlete. It would mean that small countries, unlike now, would have just as good a chance as bigger countries, since the wider pool of talent available to the bigger coutnries wouldnt apply. The advantage enjoyed by blacks in athletics at present would be drowned out by the vagaries of chance too.

[flamingreen]

It's all about who can scream the loudest. The left actually employ people to scream on this forum, but even though they do scream the most, they will never have the brains to actually validate their lunacy.

A house brick could be the leader of Labour and it would still get support.

You cannot be suggesting that SS is paid to write such twaddle? Nah, surely not!