Golden Dawn leader denies gas chambers of Holocaust

[Lolkitten]

Isn't a (public) toilet the obvious place for 'cottaging' though?

Are you asking us or telling us?

[Papa Luigi]

Getting back to the 'swimming pool' at Auschwitz for a minute - did I read somewhere on this thread that it was built in 1944?

Now was that before or after one of the typhoid outbreaks that (according to PaLu) was the major reason for the high numbers of deaths at Auschwitz?

In fact is it correct to say that typhoid was rampant at Auschwitz during the latter stages of the war? Or maybe I have got that wrong and stand to be corrected...

But suppose I am right - may I ask why the incredibly clever and knowledgeable Nazis would have allowed the typhoid-prone inmates access to a swimming pool which they themselves used when (as I understand it and again I may be completely wrong here) typhoid is a bacterial disease that is spread through (amongst other things) water that has been contaminated by infected faeces?

I see you are labouring under the misapprehension that I have been arguing that the swimming pool was availabale for inmates to use. Unfortunately I have never suggested anything of the sort and so your question is misconstrued.

I have only ever argued that the facility in question was obviously a swimming pool. It is the exterminationists that have been so concerned lest anyone should think the pool may have been available to inmates, that they have frequently tried to ignore the existence of the pool and who on occasions when the existence of the pool became known, have tried to pretend that it was not a swimming pool at all, despite the handrails, the diving boards and the ornamental gargoyle waterspout.

What the disingenuous behaviour of the exterminationists demonstrates however, is that they are prepared to lie, to virtually state that 'black is white', in order to prop up the flagging credibility of their assertions.

[sidmouth]

I see you are labouring under the misapprehension that I have been arguing that the swimming pool was availabale for inmates to use. Unfortunately I have never suggested anything of the sort and so your question is misconstrued.

I have only ever argued that the facility in question was obviously a swimming pool. It is the exterminationists that have been so concerned lest anyone should think the pool may have been available to inmates, that they have frequently tried to ignore the existence of the pool and who on occasions when the existence of the pool became known, have tried to pretend that it was not a swimming pool at all, despite the handrails, the diving boards and the ornamental gargoyle waterspout.

What the disingenuous behaviour of the exterminationists demonstrates however, is that they are prepared to lie, to virtually state that 'black is white', in order to prop up the flagging credibility of their assertions.

My post was not addressed to you specifically. I was however under the impression that many holocaust deniers use the 'swimming pool' at Auschwitz as evidence that it wasn't really such a ****-hole really. Now, why would they do that if the inference wasn't clearly that it was a facility for use by the inmates? In fact if it was a swimming pool built specifically for use by Nazi personnel only, splashing about gaily whilst the emaciated and dying inmates looked on wistfully, then that would strike me as typically sadistic Nazi behaviour - why then is the 'swimming pool' of any consequence whatsoever in 'holocaust denier world'?

[sidmouth]

Holocaust denier tract about the 'swimming pool' example no 1: "It was meant for the detainees"

http://www.rense.com/general24/controversy.htm

[Lolkitten]

ITT: Stormfag leaps on to his soap box to promote his ridiculous assertions of a conspiracy and sell tinfoil hats. No-one except his circlejerk of fellow Stormfags is buying. Stormfag gets butthurt and soils himself with dolmio sauce.

[Papa Luigi]

In fact if it was a swimming pool built specifically for use by Nazi personnel only, ...

I'm so pleased that you agree with me. Perhaps you would tell Tillerman that he can stop lying now.

[Papa Luigi]

Holocaust denier tract about the 'swimming pool' example no 1: "It was meant for the detainees"

http://www.rense.com/general24/controversy.htm

The Rense article to which you refer, quotes an individual named 'Mark Klein' who appears to have been an inmate and who claimed in his memoires that certain inmates were able to use the pool on occasions. It is therefore the Jewish ex-inmate (Klein is a obviously Jewish name) who is making the assertion that the pool was also used by inmates.

I don't think the Rense article can be readily dismissed as a 'denier tract' in view of the fact that it is quoting a Jewish survivor's memoirs. Robert Faurisson cannot be disparaged for quoting a survivor, surely?

The Jewish survivor, Mark Klein, may be lying, but if so, that's not Faurisson's fault.

It is interesting to note however, that even some of the Jewish survivors of Auschwitz have testified that they were allowed to use the purpose built recreational pool. Thanks for that interesting snippet, Sid.

[sidmouth]

I'm so pleased that you agree with me. Perhaps you would tell Tillerman that he can stop lying now.

Is English your first language? Only you don't seem to be very good at understanding plain English, little words like "if" for example.

[sidmouth]

The Rense article to which you refer, quotes an individual named 'Mark Klein' who appears to have been an inmate and who claimed in his memoires that certain inmates were able to use the pool on occasions. It is therefore the Jewish ex-inmate (Klein is a obviously Jewish name) who is making the assertion that the pool was also used by inmates.

I don't think the Rense article can be readily dismissed as a 'denier tract' in view of the fact that it is quoting a Jewish survivor's memoirs. Robert Faurisson cannot be disparaged for quoting a survivor, surely?

The Jewish survivor, Mark Klein, may be lying, but if so, that's not Faurisson's fault.

It is interesting to note however, that even some of the Jewish survivors of Auschwitz have testified that they were allowed to use the purpose built recreational pool. Thanks for that interesting snippet, Sid.

Or maybe Faurisson simply made it all up, eh PaLu? Have you proof that these inmates who swam in the Auschwitz pool ever existed? Something on Nazi headed notepaper, signed by Adolf will be acceptable, nothing else will do I'm afraid.

[sidmouth]

I'm so pleased that you agree with me. Perhaps you would tell Tillerman that he can stop lying now.

By the way, cowardly dodge of my point duly noted