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    Police Probe Councillor's Jibe
    at English Democrats

    Julian Ware-Lane Robin Tilbrook

    Right-wing party complains about Labour councillor's pre-election web postings

    A new Labour Southend councillor is facing a police investigation over his online pre-election comments.

    Police have confirmed they are investigating remarks made by Julian Ware-Lane during his successful campaign to win a seat in Milton ward.

    Robin Tilbrook, national chairman of the English Democrats, complained about comments in Mr Ware-Lane's internet blog, comparing the party to wartime traitors.


    Mr Ware-Lane wrote: "There is nothing patriotic about the jackboot politics of the far right.


    "Never forget, while Labour party members were fighting the forces of far right extremism during the Second World War, the precursors of parties like the British National Party, the National Front and the English Democrats spent the war imprisoned as traitors."


    Mr Ware-Lane won his seat last Thursday, polling 675 votes, 68 more than sitting Tory councillor Nigel Folkard.


    English Democrat candidate Spencer Haggar, polled just 122 votes - the fewest of any of the five candidates. However, Mr Tilbrook complained to police ahead of the poll, and maintains Mr Ware-Lane's comments may have cost his party vital support.


    He said: "It was a deliberate smear. I appreciate there will always be a confrontational aspect to elections, but this went too far.


    "It was a disgusting comparison to make and I want the police to investigate it fully."


    If Mr Ware-Lane were to be found to have misled the public during his election campaign, he could be forced to give up his seat.


    In 2010, Labour MP Phil Woolas lost his Westminster seat after two High Court judges ruled he had tried to stir up religious tensions to damage a LibDem election rival.


    The ruling was the first such in 99 years, and some pundits warned it could have far-reaching consequences for future elections.


    Mr Ware-Lane still mantains he has done nothing wrong.


    He said: "The English Democrats in Southend have largely been taken over by ex-members of the BNP. That is shown by the public record. I will wait to see if I hear from the police."


    Six of the ten English Democrats who stood in the May 3 elections have previously stood in Southend for the BNP.

    Reference: The Southend Echo printed version.

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    Julian Ware-Lane's own party accepts ex-BNP members. Labour even have an ex-BNP councillor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ann C View Post
    Police Probe Councillor's Jibe
    at English Democrats

    Julian Ware-Lane Robin Tilbrook

    Right-wing party complains about Labour councillor's pre-election web postings

    A new Labour Southend councillor is facing a police investigation over his online pre-election comments.

    Police have confirmed they are investigating remarks made by Julian Ware-Lane during his successful campaign to win a seat in Milton ward.

    Robin Tilbrook, national chairman of the English Democrats, complained about comments in Mr Ware-Lane's internet blog, comparing the party to wartime traitors.


    Mr Ware-Lane wrote: "There is nothing patriotic about the jackboot politics of the far right.


    "Never forget, while Labour party members were fighting the forces of far right extremism during the Second World War, the precursors of parties like the British National Party, the National Front and the English Democrats spent the war imprisoned as traitors."


    Mr Ware-Lane won his seat last Thursday, polling 675 votes, 68 more than sitting Tory councillor Nigel Folkard.


    English Democrat candidate Spencer Haggar, polled just 122 votes - the fewest of any of the five candidates. However, Mr Tilbrook complained to police ahead of the poll, and maintains Mr Ware-Lane's comments may have cost his party vital support.


    He said: "It was a deliberate smear. I appreciate there will always be a confrontational aspect to elections, but this went too far.


    "It was a disgusting comparison to make and I want the police to investigate it fully."


    If Mr Ware-Lane were to be found to have misled the public during his election campaign, he could be forced to give up his seat.


    In 2010, Labour MP Phil Woolas lost his Westminster seat after two High Court judges ruled he had tried to stir up religious tensions to damage a LibDem election rival.


    The ruling was the first such in 99 years, and some pundits warned it could have far-reaching consequences for future elections.


    Mr Ware-Lane still mantains he has done nothing wrong.


    He said: "The English Democrats in Southend have largely been taken over by ex-members of the BNP. That is shown by the public record. I will wait to see if I hear from the police."


    Six of the ten English Democrats who stood in the May 3 elections have previously stood in Southend for the BNP.

    Reference: The Southend Echo printed version.

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    Julian Ware-Lane's own party accepts ex-BNP members. Labour even have an ex-BNP councillor.
    Good find Ann C.

    Let them learn that those who call our party racist, won't be allowed to get away with it in future.

    Full article here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janssen View Post
    Good find Ann C.

    Let them learn that those who call our party racist, won't be allowed to get away with it in future.
    Hasn't this yet to be tested in court?
    "...the forum's juvenile delinquent" and occasional user of "coarse language"...

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    Doubt anything will happen as you cant libel a political party as the BNP found out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueblood1920 View Post
    Doubt anything will happen as you cant libel a political party as the BNP found out.
    Nope. All you can really do is give it back to them. With interest....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northumbrian View Post
    Nope. All you can really do is give it back to them. With interest....
    Quite...which makes threats of legal action seem somewhat hollow.

    A legal threat is a two-edged sword - on one hand, it's an attempt to look tough, but on the other, it looks as though you can't argue your point back and so have to resort to the courts.

    Against individuals, it just looks oppressive and excessive.

    Besides, I thought one of the thrusts of the great brane of the EDP was that all publicity was good publicity?

    You can't have it both ways.

    You can't have your pie and eat it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janssen View Post
    Good find Ann C.

    Let them learn that those who call our party racist, won't be allowed to get away with it in future.

    Full article here

    Your party (More precisely, it's manifesto) is not racist,Janssen. However, some of your new ex-BNP colleagues have some unpleasant baggage in this area that has caused some to take an unhealthy interest.

    Having 6 out of 10 candidates standing in a local election who recently came across from a party that had a ban on non-white membership until forced to change it by order of the courts - That could look, how shall we say, 'unfortunate'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Dixon View Post
    Your party (More precisely, it's manifesto) is not racist...
    With respect Cliff, racist is a left-wing term of abuse so why do you go along with their agenda? It shows that you can not think for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesUK View Post
    With respect Cliff, racist is a left-wing term of abuse so why do you go along with their agenda? It shows that you can not think for yourself.
    It seems far too easy for these guys to attack good English Nationalists. In doing so they align themselves with the failing british union and corrupt dogs of the bnp

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesUK View Post
    With respect Cliff, racist is a left-wing term of abuse so why do you go along with their agenda? It shows that you can not think for yourself.
    No, it shows he can think for himself.

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