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    CEOP are not happy with those figures being used in this way, i.e. to try and minimise the racial/religious aspect .. the figures are neither complete nor fully relative to the muslim grooming gangs phenomena or how they have operated for decades with impunity. Only a fraction of those rapists have ever been caught & dealt with. This imported racist crime has yet to be properly evaluated, and the numbers will be an eye-opener when proper analyses have finally been done.

    The silence only began to break a year ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
    CEOP are not happy with those figures being used in this way, i.e. to try and minimise the racial/religious aspect .. the figures are neither complete nor fully relative to the muslim grooming gangs phenomena or how they have operated for decades with impunity. Only a fraction of those rapists have ever been caught & dealt with. This imported racist crime has yet to be properly evaluated, and the numbers will be an eye-opener when proper analyses have finally been done.

    The silence only began to break a year ago.
    Their not happy because it doesn’t fit their criteria of incriminating muslims. ‘Opening eyes’ to problems or breaking silence doesn’t help resolve a case, those figures deal with the decades worth of grooming cases so how can you possibly say it’s not representative. Every case reported is investigated, the media out doesnt impact CPS's decision's prosecute. if theres enough evidence, they will try to prosecute. Nothing else has anything to do with. Clearly you dont know jack about the law.



    Even if there is slight problems with the stats, it’s important to know that those 45 Pakistani Men have had their faces plastered over almost every major newspaper, but they make only 0.3% of all offenders.

    What % of grooming cases in the news involved those 0.3% of offenders? About 90-95%,,,,

    Ive had plenty of run ins with cops, like you they all hate p*akis above any other ethnic group, why I don’t know, don’t ask me why, ask me how.

    After 4-5 years and about 150 ‘routine stop checks’ I noticed the sudden change in attitude when you’re asked your ethnicity. So I started telling them I was Indian…not surprisingly they were nice to me, when I say p8aki, its like I shoved a big fat jelapeno up their bum holes.

    I also refused to answer the question sometimes on race, in which case they would say ‘ill put it down as p*aki’. Point being, the cops know who’s p*aki and whos not, I really doubt there are any p*aki’s in that ‘unknown’ group, since 9.11 the government has made it a priority to record who’s muslim and who isn’t – hence the changes in the ethnicity questions I highlighted in the first post.

    As I said you will refuse to acknowledge those figures purely based on your love for hate. The figure are from the police and as accurate as you’ll get regarding this problem.

    Regardless all the hate mongers like Marilyn and francis and pals will continue talking about this inflated muslim grooming gang problem, knowing full well the only numbers available on this issue say that theur only account for 0.3% of offenders.

    You guy belong in the nazi regimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alemcodon View Post



    1200 sex grooming offenders, 45 have been identified as of Pakistani/Muslim origin (0.3%)
    No, 28% were Asian/Muslim, only 45 were actually put down on the notes. And 38% were unknown, which I bet were nearly all Muslims. So probably over half were Muslims.

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    You don't help matters at all do you. Probably best if you just STFU.

    The numbers are extracted from narrow & incomplete criteria & nowhere near representative or valid for this widespread long-term crime. A crime only just getting acknowledged, let alone dealt with.






    Quote Originally Posted by alemcodon View Post
    Their not happy because it doesn’t fit their criteria of incriminating muslims. ‘Opening eyes’ to problems or breaking silence doesn’t help resolve a case, those figures deal with the decades worth of grooming cases so how can you possibly say it’s not representative. Every case reported is investigated, the media out doesnt impact CPS's decision's prosecute. if theres enough evidence, they will try to prosecute. Nothing else has anything to do with. Clearly you dont know jack about the law.



    Even if there is slight problems with the stats, it’s important to know that those 45 Pakistani Men have had their faces plastered over almost every major newspaper, but they make only 0.3% of all offenders.

    What % of grooming cases in the news involved those 0.3% of offenders? About 90-95%,,,,

    Ive had plenty of run ins with cops, like you they all hate p*akis above any other ethnic group, why I don’t know, don’t ask me why, ask me how.

    After 4-5 years and about 150 ‘routine stop checks’ I noticed the sudden change in attitude when you’re asked your ethnicity. So I started telling them I was Indian…not surprisingly they were nice to me, when I say p8aki, its like I shoved a big fat jelapeno up their bum holes.

    I also refused to answer the question sometimes on race, in which case they would say ‘ill put it down as p*aki’. Point being, the cops know who’s p*aki and whos not, I really doubt there are any p*aki’s in that ‘unknown’ group, since 9.11 the government has made it a priority to record who’s muslim and who isn’t – hence the changes in the ethnicity questions I highlighted in the first post.

    As I said you will refuse to acknowledge those figures purely based on your love for hate. The figure are from the police and as accurate as you’ll get regarding this problem.

    Regardless all the hate mongers like Marilyn and francis and pals will continue talking about this inflated muslim grooming gang problem, knowing full well the only numbers available on this issue say that theur only account for 0.3% of offenders.

    You guy belong in the nazi regimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post
    No, 28% were Asian/Muslim, only 45 were actually put down on the notes. And 38% were unknown, which I bet were nearly all Muslims. So probably over half were Muslims.
    erm look at the figures again do you see a * next to the 'Asians' on the bar graph.

    Go the the footer and read the small print for what * means.

    Clearly analysing a simple bar graph is beyond your depths here, hence why we have a problem with you EDL lover types who cannot read and interpret basic bar graphs, you have to be told it, and you blindly believe what your told.

    They're telling you pakistani grooming gangs is a mjaor problem, and showing you numbers that show thehy only account for 0.3% of the offenders.....

    but not even our MP's were able to go beyond reading an analogy rather that interpreting the figures - and this why this country is gonna be f* cked in 20 years, because idiots seem to gaining ground and have now taken control of the media and politics.

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    Amusing how the 'System' which is responsible for proper due care and welfare of these young girls appears to be distancing itself from the major shortfalls and gross negligence within the care institution while the idiotic islamophobic press is distracted by the real problematic issues in this respect. Along with criminal nuts involved in this crime, the parents of the respective victims and the 'care guardians' should bear the brunt of this criminal act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
    You don't help matters at all do you. Probably best if you just STFU.

    The numbers are extracted from narrow & incomplete criteria & nowhere near representative or valid for this widespread long-term crime. A crime only just getting acknowledged, let alone dealt with.
    How is the crime getting acknowledged only now? Those guys were not convicted for 'grooming', the exact charges were along the lines of having conspiring to and having sex with underage girls, and as far as i know, that crime has been there a long long time.

    The police can only prosecute crimes they encounter, or are reported about. they dont go and investigate based on what the BBC tells them.

    Its no secret the police have a heavy presence in ethnic areas so to even speculate about figures not being representative is ludacrous.

    You dont know nothing about the law and how it works. To you muslims are evil and thats all that matters. Look at you.....its just sad, it really is.

    So when did you observe this problem? what real life experiance do you have regarding grooming, so how can you acknowledge a problem exists, your taking someone elses word for it. You dispute the figures, but accept the statements....and your telling me to STFU?

    Regardless of how well reported or how high the conviction rate is, the FACT IS, 1200 offenders were convicted, but the 45 pakistanis dominated the news, and your circle of friends dinner conversations for the last 5 years. Which news articles did the other 1150 offenders get covered in the same time?

    You just cant accept the fact that your sh*t talk for the last 5 years has been based on nothing and one of the main drivers for your msulim hate spreading doesnt even exist.
    Last edited by alemcodon; 11-05-2012 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bwana_Mutungi View Post
    Amusing how the 'System' which is responsible for proper due care and welfare of these young girls appears to be distancing itself from the major shortfalls and gross negligence within the care institution while the idiotic islamophobic press is distracted by the real problematic issues in this respect. Along with criminal nuts involved in this crime, the parents of the respective victims and the 'care guardians' should bear the brunt of this criminal act.
    They were quick to point fingers and prosecute black parents for the riots n sh*t werent they? Why not girls who have sex underage (which is almost every 14yr old in the country).

    its also funny how i recall about 8-9 years ago, black rapists seemed to the sex problem, now its pakistanis.....

    the news always has, is and always will be full of sh*t, the sooner everyone acknowledges that, the sooner we can get on with our lives.
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    Anyone who leaves their house at least once a year will know prositution, and human traffickingis a massive industry for eastern europeans.

    They ALL have pimps, and they will NEVER go to the police, because their families are at risk back home, they would rather die than bring harm to their families.

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    Unethical upbringing lacking in core values of self respect and dignity results in such young people ending up in inapt care centres staffed by equally inapt personnel. Most parents of such children consider them a liability, both social and financial. The temptations of materialistic lifestyle leads them into the seedy network of the criminal wolves keen to take undue advantage of such 'lost' young persons. Sad!
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