Beleive it or not William Hague is seen as one of the most popular Tory members of the Coalition despite his disatrous tenure as leader, a Hague led government with say Redwood as business secretary, David Davis in a prominanant role and someone like Lord Howard as Justice Secretary instead of old Europhile Clarke would look more Tory.Originally Posted by CB100
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The only time I ever voted labour was when Hague was leader.
I thought we needed some sanity restored and a real drubbing at the polls might achieve that. How wrong I was - IDS took over from Hague....
Hague is too much of what you might call the political class. There was a documentary on Radio 4 about him a while back explaining what he was like as a kid. Apparently he was the kind of kid that used to go to his local newsagents and subscribe to Hansard and read it from cover to cover each week. Has anyone seen that film Hotfuzz about that cop who always wanted to be a cop right from the age of a toddler playing in toy cop cars? Well that's Hague in a nutshell in my opinion.
Davis hasn't got a particularly good record on voting out EU legislation and comes about neck and neck with Cameron. John Redwood though gets very high marks here. This is why you never see him on the TV or anything. On tax he explains it this way. He says you pay your tax; the government decides what you want to spend it on and makes a "handling charge" for doing so.
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Yes and a very big "handling charge" too.
And the "handlers" are much less careful when spending our money than we would be when spending it ourselves. So not only do we have the enormous "handling charge", we also have mass inefficiency in how the money is spent as well.
"Handlers" (Civil servants).. Nothing that a good sacking wouldn't cure.
Why did he resign?
Pregnant Maria De Jesus suffered an agonising death
He says it was to fight the proposal from the then Labour government, to extend the period of time terror suspects could be held without trial. A very bizarre response.
No he isn't, he must have wanted a coalition. It should have been nigh on impossible to get a majority Tory government after 3 terms and 13 of NuLabour and one of the most despised Prime Ministers of our time that almost bankrupted our country.
But call me Dave managed, one of the first things he did when he won the leadership contest, was to strip out of the manifesto the reclamation of our fishing areas. Shortly followed by his cast iron guarantee, abolishing the Human Rights Act, increase prison places by building new prisons, increase the size of the army (which means no cuts), tax breaks for married couples. I could go on, there are a few major ones I've currently forgotten that happened not long after his cast iron guarantee melted away.
What he has done in these hard financial times is, increase the amount of overseas aid by a substantial amount with a promise to continue to increase it, and giving it to countries that don't even want or need it. Handing over £40 bn to support a currency that we're not even in. He's carrying on with these stupid green taxes which are just about to push the average family dual fuel bill up by another £120 a year. The duty escalator is to continue unabated, does he not realise how expensive fuel already is, obviously not, because he doesn't have to pay for his.
Cameron is a lying smug tw@t who is completely out of touch with reality. If the Tories don't get rid of him, he's going to have even less MPs come 2015.
PS He is raising taxes (VAT) and not cutting spending, he's taken on another 4,500 civil servants since the election.
Hague has some unusual bedroom habits for a married man. He's also very pro Turkey joining the EU.
Clearly the electorate disagreed. Many distrust the tories and the lib dems were attracting major support following Nick Clegg's pre election TV performances. The tories can't win on their own whilst the lib dems are strong because they take the anti labour vote.
He's slippery, I'll give you that.But call me Dave managed, one of the first things he did when he won the leadership contest, was to strip out of the manifesto the reclamation of our fishing areas. Shortly followed by his cast iron guarantee, abolishing the Human Rights Act, increase prison places by building new prisons, increase the size of the army (which means no cuts), tax breaks for married couples. I could go on, there are a few major ones I've currently forgotten that happened not long after his cast iron guarantee melted away.
The widespread financial judgement is that if the EU implodes in a disorderly way, the melt down will leave us in a 1930's style depression. We are not immune. Even China has been pumping money in to support the euro.What he has done in these hard financial times is, increase the amount of overseas aid by a substantial amount with a promise to continue to increase it, and giving it to countries that don't even want or need it. Handing over £40 bn to support a currency that we're not even in. He's carrying on with these stupid green taxes which are just about to push the average family dual fuel bill up by another £120 a year. The duty escalator is to continue unabated, does he not realise how expensive fuel already is, obviously not, because he doesn't have to pay for his.
Overall he is cutting spending and raising taxes. Frankly there is no choice.He is raising taxes (VAT) and not cutting spending, he's taken on another 4,500 civil servants since the election.
There is something odd in the theory though about Cameron and real Tories. During that time of Nu Labour, on the surface of it, you would have thought that a monkey would have won against them, but the polls were telling a different story. There were a quick succession of different changes in leader. We had Howard, IDS and we had Hague. IDS is a popular politician with his party and known to be a solid right-winger and anti-EU. Hague made a big thing about the EU, being a British party and keeping the pound. I think of Hague as a sort of caricature of a man wearing a union jack shirt at this time. We were never sure whether he really meant it, but he certainly did say it. Out of those three I remember the Tory manifesto at the time of Howard as being the most conservative and intelligent right wing kind of thing. Howard though had a dark past when he was Home Secretary as he was Mr clamper-downer, as in he was always clamping down on something or other. People felt their freedoms were ebbing away and that this clamping down seemed to look like personal prejudices rather than anything reasonable. Anyhow it seemed he had since mellowed out quite a bit and put a good case forwards, but it is telling that out of that lot the only person to actually get Labour our was a Tony Blair MkII.
My theory is the public have been conditioned to make the wrong choices and politicians are simply serving this conditioning. Have you noticed on Radio Four plays where they have a character with an upper-class accent and they always act in a spiteful and conceited way? Years and years of this sort of conditioning brings us to where we are at the moment. Eventually I suspect they will end up with the Beckhams running the country. I mean the job will be no more than being a figurehead as Brussels does the rest. British euros will have the Bechham tattoo on them as a sign of sovereignty. (Seriously, it is the third most searched on word in conjunction with ‘Beckhams’.
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