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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannydc View Post
    Another race to the bottom commences.

    If it isn't this vile government telling us to work longer for less, so we can 'compete' with slave labour in China, next they tell us that despite all the tiger economies 'up-skilling' their workforces through further education, we should forget that nonsense so kids can again be used as factory fodder as they know no better.
    It is NuLabour that put us in this position and opened the floodgates to cheap labour.

    Make sure you lay the blame, clearly at their door.

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    In some instances Baron is right, you have a degree in French and end up being a surgeon, where you have no knowledge of the subject at all, the nurse helping the surgeon over many years would know more about how to perform the operation than a person holding a degree in French.
    I don't think he is actually putting down the degree, he is more concerned with how much experience you have in the job you are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post
    It is NuLabour that put us in this position and opened the floodgates to cheap labour.

    Make sure you lay the blame, clearly at their door.

    Perhaps if you went back to pre-1997 and noted who signed us up to Maastrich, you would see who opened the floodgates. The same people who were desperate to deny people the small dignity of a minimum wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannydc View Post
    Perhaps if you went back to pre-1997 and noted who signed us up to Maastrich, you would see who opened the floodgates. The same people who were desperate to deny people the small dignity of a minimum wage.
    Certainly John traitor Major, did the deed. But NuLabour carried it out with renewed vigour.

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    I don't think that any of them had a clue to what they were doing, it seemed a good idea at the time, the only problem is, at this point in time, everyone knows what the problem is apart from the EU, but nobody has the conviction to say, here this is not what we want, they are all standing on there own, if they all got together and talked it would only take one person to say, enough is enough, this is what will work, and if you want to work to drag everyone down, we are not going down with a sinking ship, who is for moving forward into a different direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannydc View Post
    Another race to the bottom commences.

    If it isn't this vile government telling us to work longer for less, so we can 'compete' with slave labour in China, next they tell us that despite all the tiger economies 'up-skilling' their workforces through further education, we should forget that nonsense so kids can again be used as factory fodder as they know no better.

    No, I'm completely for people being knowledgeable in what they do. It's just that if they take the trouble to learn it for themselves then it doesn't count for anything, which I find a form of unjustified discrimination. If it were not like that it would present greater competition and the lazy academic institutions would have to work to justify their existence, i.e. they would have to improve their game or go bust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post
    Certainly John traitor Major, did the deed. But NuLabour carried it out with renewed vigour.
    Not just 'renewed vigour', they actually lied through there teeth about it, claiming to be clamping down on immigration whilst secretly telling the Borders Agency to not bother and go home till the next election or two.

    Nu Labour pretty much lied through there teeth about anything and everything, from immigration and the economy all the way to Iraq and WMD's, it was a A Lie a Day with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by internetcynic View Post
    Not just 'renewed vigour', they actually lied through there teeth about it, claiming to be clamping down on immigration whilst secretly telling the Borders Agency to not bother and go home till the next election or two.
    The problem is, that the Tories have a self confesse (online) Common Purpose stooge. So nothing is going to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post
    The problem is, that the Tories have a self confesse (online) Common Purpose stooge. So nothing is going to change.
    Absolutely, and a Bilderburger to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorraine View Post
    In some instances Baron is right, you have a degree in French and end up being a surgeon, where you have no knowledge of the subject at all, the nurse helping the surgeon over many years would know more about how to perform the operation than a person holding a degree in French.
    I don't think he is actually putting down the degree, he is more concerned with how much experience you have in the job you are doing.
    You cannot be a surgeon of you haven't got medical qualifications. A degree in French is a nicety, but would in effect be a waste of 3 years as you would still have to do 5-7 years of medical training.

    BvL's account of someone 'in computers' having a non-technical degree might be because he is regional head of international sales and doesn't have to write code. At the end of the day the employer knows what he/she is looking for. If they get it wrong then they will waste a lot of money. No employer can give the tea lady £100,000 pa. The person must have some skill that the employer wants and it might have been obtained by gaining experience.

    I'm a member of a centuries old professional body and they ensure that the customer only has access to suitably qualified practitioners. The system has worked well and issues of poor practice are usually laid at the junior profession who handle clients money.

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