Posh Boys and the Price of Milk

[CB100]

Actually she regards the forum as a waste of time so I very much doubt that will happen.
I guess you are stuck with me.

Very pleased to hear it. Let her finish the thread for you.

[Besoeker]

I could but I don't have time to trawl for all the news and comment made over recent years.

I don't mean this unkindly but that comment seems to sum up your approach to the discussion.
You assert opinions or a stance that the electorate takes.
You state what the public opinion is on various matters.
You assert the limited capabilities of members of this forum.
All without a shred of supporting evidence.

Stated as opinion is fine.
Stated as fact, maybe not so fine.

[Matron]

Actually she regards the forum as a waste of time so I very much doubt that will happen.
I guess you are stuck with me.

I suppose it could be worse. When you're not heaping praise upon David Cameron for running the country badly, and when you're not insisting that we should reward Cameron's incompetence with a higher salary, you're actually a refreshing read.

[CB100]

I don't mean this unkindly but that comment seems to sum up your approach to the discussion.
You assert opinions or a stance that the electorate takes.
You state what the public opinion is on various matters.
You assert the limited capabilities of members of this forum.
All without a shred of supporting evidence.
Stated as opinion is fine.
Stated as fact, maybe not so fine.

I do have lots of evidence. The evidence gleaned from being an avid media watcher, reading the many opinions expressed in the news media about public hostility to MPs, listening to interviews of members of the public on TV etc etc. I'm just not prepared to trawl through and find the links to the evidence.

I'd put back a scenario to you:

Given that the average salary package of a FTSE chief exec is over £3 million a year, what do you think the public reaction would be if David Cameron announced tomorrow that, as from the next general election, the new PM (of whatever party) would have a salary of say £500,000 a year instead of £140,000 a year at present?

He further announces that all other MPs' salaries will be increased accordingly. And that this is all in recognition of the fact that MPs have been underpaid for too long.

Do you believe the public would, on balance, be supportive to the idea or not?

[CB100]

Well thanks for the kind comments.

On Cameron, I'm not really defending him. As with so much in politics, I regard him as the least worst option.

The UK is in a deep hole at the moment and whoever is in power would struggle. I doubt very much if a single person on this forum could do as well as Cameron in managing the various competing interests.

The problem I have with Cameron is on policy not on his managerial skills (which are considerable). On policy however, like the previous PMs we have had for over 40 years, I believe he is taking us in the wrong direction.

My view of an ideal person to be PM is long dead - Enoch Powell - a brilliant mind and prepared to say and do what he thinks is right, regardless of the consequences.

I suppose it could be worse. When you're not heaping praise upon David Cameron for running the country badly, and when you're not insisting that we should reward Cameron's incompetence with a higher salary, you're actually a refreshing read.

[Besoeker]

I do have lots of evidence. The evidence gleaned from being an avid media watcher, reading the many opinions expressed in the news media about public hostility to MPs, listening to interviews of members of the public on TV etc etc. I'm just not prepared to trawl through and find the links to the evidence.

OK.
No evidence presented.
Stroll on.

[Matron]

Given that the average salary package of a FTSE chief exec is over £3 million a year, what do you think the public reaction would be if David Cameron announced tomorrow that, as from the next general election, the new PM (of whatever party) would have a salary of say £500,000 a year instead of £140,000 a year at present?

He further announces that all other MPs' salaries will be increased accordingly. And that this is all in recognition of the fact that MPs have been underpaid for too long.

Do you believe the public would, on balance, be supportive to the idea or not?

Not.

On Cameron, I'm not really defending him.

Defending the indefensible.

As with so much in politics, I regard him as the least worst option.

There are better options available than him, sitting behind him on his own backbenches.

The UK is in a deep hole at the moment

Which DC/LOL is making deeper.

and whoever is in power would struggle.

It would help if, as you correctly state in your next point, his policies weren't taking us in the wrong direction.

I doubt very much if a single person on this forum could do as well as Cameron in managing the various competing interests.

The problem I have with Cameron is on policy not on his managerial skills (which are considerable). On policy however, like the previous PMs we have had for over 40 years, I believe he is taking us in the wrong direction.

Wouldn't it be preferable to have a PM whose policies would take us in the right direction, instead of what we have at present, which is David Cameron taking us in the wrong direction?

[CB100]

Wouldn't it be preferable to have a PM whose policies would take us in the right direction, instead of what we have at present, which is David Cameron taking us in the wrong direction?

Who do you think would do a better job whilst continuing to retain Lib Dem support?

[Matron]

Who do you think would do a better job whilst continuing to retain Lib Dem support?

If David Cameron will only do what the LibDems let him do, shouldn't Nick Clegg be the Prime Minister, and DC be the deputy PM?

[CB100]

I was trying to get an answer to my question rather than you pose another one.

You think DC is doing a rubbish job and others could do a better one. So exactly who do you have in mind?

If David Cameron will only do what the LibDems let him do, shouldn't Nick Clegg be the Prime Minister, and DC be the deputy PM?