Skintland

[morayloon]

The scottish people are not supporting their own independence from the UK

At the moment no but there are two years of campaigning in front of us

Posting puffed up polls is just silly, nobody takes any notice of them

These are genuine opinion polls from reputable organisations and it is valid to post their findings. If nobody paid attention to them, there would be no polling industry.

or of salmond and sturgeon

The Scottish people in their droves backed the SNP last year AND voted for Alex Salmond for First Minister in the list section. If people took no notice of them, why did this happen?

[shagpile]

I am not sure if he is refering to the fact that the legal powers for a binding referendum lay with Westminister, i certainly think it would be very difficult to ignore a yes vote but dont understand why Mr Salmonddidnt want the powers transfered.

Westminster has no legal powers to deny Scots deliberation on self determination.

Serbia did not have the authority over the independent state of Kosovo.

Why would Salmond agree to "loaded terms"? Given that Westminster HAS NO MANDTE under international law of which the UK is signatory to?

[shagpile]

The scottish people are not supporting their own independence from the UK. Posting puffed up polls is just silly, nobody takes any notice of them, or of salmond and sturgeon, the fisherfolk.

Totally wrong.

I have posted the evidence, you and yours chose to ignore it.

The smartest thing to date is the declaration signature.

Overseen by Westminster's preferred monitor... dob, on electoral role...... Love it!

When unionist politicos and UK MSM report "polls"....... The signatures tell a different story. Good luck with that (nazi types).

[rjt]

Westminster has no legal powers to deny Scots deliberation on self determination.

Serbia did not have the authority over the independent state of Kosovo.

Why would Salmond agree to "loaded terms"? Given that Westminster HAS NO MANDTE under international law of which the UK is signatory to?

As I have said before there is some argument on that, personally regardless of who is right a yes vote in the referendum is good enough for me.

[shagpile]

As I have said before there is some argument on that, personally regardless of who is right a yes vote in the referendum is good enough for me.

Yes mate, I know you have. But evidence of the allegedly dodgy international law is in fact sound and indeed set by precedent.

Recognition defines a state's legitimacy, NOT law. Because there is NO law; which defines the independence of a state, yet it prescribes the international requirements for the process to take place.

AND, I agree, simple yes majority and it's game set and match...... DONE.

[rjt]

Yes mate, I know you have. But evidence of the allegedly dodgy international law is in fact sound and indeed set by precedent.

Recognition defines a state's legitimacy, NOT law. Because there is NO law; which defines the independence of a state, yet it prescribes the international requirements for the process to take place.

AND, I agree, simple yes majority and it's game set and match...... DONE.

Indeed but for the sake of the yes camp if they win it is a good outcome and a clear outcome, history teaches us that narrow verdicts in such matters leads to trouble, I hope also that the yes camp sort out a settled position on the monarchy soon, the launch has been clouded in confusion because the SNP dont as first appeared have a settled position on this.

[Norwegian wood]

Indeed but for the sake of the yes camp if they win it is a good outcome and a clear outcome, history teaches us that narrow verdicts in such matters leads to trouble, I hope also that the yes camp sort out a settled position on the monarchy soon, the launch has been clouded in confusion because the SNP dont as first appeared have a settled position on this.

The Scotitch people will NEVER vote to leave the Englis teat, you are stuck with them until the Englis have the vote - History and past experiences has proven that the Scotitch action never ever matches the rhetoric: they is all talk and bluster when they is in a mob but in the privacy of the Ballot Box reality hits them!

[morayloon]

The Scotitch people will NEVER vote to leave the Englis teat

How do you know what the Scots will do?

History and past experiences has proven that the Scotitch action never ever matches the rhetoric: they is all talk and bluster when they is in a mob but in the privacy of the Ballot Box reality hits them!

And your evidence is? On the two occasions the Scots voted on their constitutional future the outcome was a Yes vote for change.

[rjt]

The Scotitch people will NEVER vote to leave the Englis teat, you are stuck with them until the Englis have the vote - History and past experiences has proven that the Scotitch action never ever matches the rhetoric: they is all talk and bluster when they is in a mob but in the privacy of the Ballot Box reality hits them!

I dont feel I am stuck with anyone, I think Scotland is a proud Country and I have much fondness for it and the Union, I am prepared to accept any democratic decision that is taken, what I wouldnt feel is approariate is for Scotland as an independent nation to think it can have its cake and eat it.