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[morayloon]

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2012/04...land/#comments Do you think the Economist front page is helpful to the Unionists. I can't see how denigrating Scotland will further the cause at all. The image is already doing the rounds and will reach many more people than actually purchase the magazine. A boost to the Independence campaign I think.

[rjt]

I dont think the Front Page of the Economist is the repsonsibility of any Unionist Party but a debate on how economically Scotland will fair as an independent Foreign Power is going to be part of the overall independence debate, there are issues that go far beyond any nationalistic argument to be considered.

[shagpile]

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2012/04...land/#comments Do you think the Economist front page is helpful to the Unionists. I can't see how denigrating Scotland will further the cause at all. The image is already doing the rounds and will reach many more people than actually purchase the magazine. A boost to the Independence campaign I think.

It's about every bit as acceptable of those who wish to fart in a library, and have someone of royal parentage claiming that one just does not fart.

The Ecclestones of unionism who might wish to be martyred between the bricks might protest that this non issue needs defending otherwise the race is over, as the union is dodgy enough.

It's racism.

Yet racism is not the subject of this thread.

Let's talk about fishing...... Much more relevant.

Would anyone join me in a cyber beer?

[Tom Wilde]

I was just looking at that front cover in a newsagents about an hour ago. I thought it was pretty funny. One of the world's leading financial magazines makes the clear argument that independence would be likely to result in economic problems for Scotland. They draw attention to that serious analysis with a humorous front cover. And then the SNP react by doing their very best to circulate this damaging cover as widely as they can, and whine about it to the rest of the media, thus bringing it to the attention of the vast majority of the population, who aren't regular Economist readers. I'm sure The Economist must be really grateful for all the free publicity, and the unionist parties get a free boost from it too.

SNP takes aim at its own foot with a twelve-bore and BOOM!

[rjt]

I was just looking at that front cover in a newsagents about an hour ago. I thought it was pretty funny. One of the world's leading financial magazines makes the clear argument that independence is likely to result in economic problems for Scotland. They draw attention to that serious analysis with a humorous front cover. And then the SNP react by doing their very best to circulate this damaging cover as widely as they can, and whine about it to the rest of the media, thus bringing it to the attention of the vast majority of the population, who aren't regular Economist readers. I'm sure The Economist must be really grateful for all the free publicity, and the unionist parties get a free boost from it too.


SNP takes aim at its own foot with a twelve-bore and BOOM!

Indeed it is a humourous cover with a serious message.

[shagpile]

Ah well....

Personally, this is a nothing item.

It will appeal to the romantics (again). Yet what's new?

The argument has been made. Scotland will progress and prosper as an independent nation, of that, there are NO serious detractors.

So what now?

Reality?

Simple as you like. rUK has unofficially rolled out their defence policy. The current UK defences are removed from Scotland. The Northern Border will be defended by an independent Scotland.

The replacement of the Nimrod fleet will be the in the procurement of the P-3 Orion, based at Lossiemouth and Kinloss. A Scottish Navy based at Faslane. A mobile Armoured Brigade based at Leuchars. There will of course be other military bases throughout the Scottish mainland and Islands.

Ratification will in essence be in the referendum. The UK has no further policy for Scotland other than cuts. This is also a given.

No one doubts the future for Scotland, domestically or abroad. Die hards will enthuse over the doom that awaits...... a story of old, drivelled to India, blah, blah bloody blah...... Who's crying now?

It is time now to move on. To grow up. Argument for the union has passed. It is now how we cooperate in the future as separate, yet allied states, with strong social links, although differing outlooks.

Independence is our shared future reality. That does not exclude interdependence. Just wait for that last sentence to be twisted.....

[rjt]

The debate on all these issues will in fact be had during the Referendum Campaign.

[shagpile]

The debate on all these issues will in fact be had during the Referendum Campaign.

So what did I miss?

Westminster don't plan to further cut an undefended Scotland?

What possible incentive is there for Scots to vote for the union, other than..... we have lashing and lashings of ginger beer with the (undisclosed) jam tomorrow just as long as you vote NO?

Some romantics are sexually arroused by infidelity...... clearly.

[rjt]

So what did I miss?

Westminster don't plan to further cut an undefended Scotland?

What possible incentive is there for Scots to vote for the union, other than..... we have lashing and lashings of ginger beer with the (undisclosed) jam tomorrow just as long as you vote NO?

Some romantics are sexually arroused by infidelity...... clearly.

Scotland is not undefended, yes there will be more cuts across the UK everyone knows that. The wider issues of Scotlands place as an indpendent country will be discussed during the campaign, the First Minister will put his case the no campaign will put theirs.

As a Christian I have to say I do not get arroused by infidelity indeed i beleive marriages are made to last especially when both partners can offer each other such good companionship, if one side is so ungratfull and cant keep their clothes on they deserve a rough deal during and after the divorce.

[morayloon]

I was just looking at that front cover in a newsagents about an hour ago. I thought it was pretty funny. One of the world's leading financial magazines makes the clear argument that independence would be likely to result in economic problems for Scotland. They draw attention to that serious analysis with a humorous front cover

The image may be humerous to you, but I reckon it is totally offensive to many Scots. The whole thing is a take on its issue of Jan 27th last year when a similar thing was done to the US http://www.economist.com/node/18010469 They must have believed it would be great idea to do it to Scotland - only it has backfired.

and then the SNP react by doing their very best to circulate this damaging cover as widely as they can, and whine about it to the rest of the media

I can assure you it isn't just the SNP.

thus bringing it to the attention of the vast majority of the population, who aren't regular Economist readers. I'm sure The Economist must be really grateful for all the free publicity

It won't help its circulation - the vast majority will read the article online

and the unionist parties get a free boost from it too

You have it the wrong way round and I think you underestimate the reaction up here. This will be a boost for the Nationalists