George didn't know people try to reduce their tax liability

[Mr Rob]

[I]1) 60% of households are net recipients from the Treasury.

Bloody hell!

How?

[CB100]

It's a shocker I agree. In my view only the poorest should be net recipients but that is presumably the consequences of 15 years of Labour creating ever more welfare dependency higher and higher up the income scale.

I got the information here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15843746

Cue howls of derision from the conspiracy theorists saying the BBC are in on the fiddle...

Bloody hell! How?

[ron]

Cost effectiveness should be the priority. There is no point in introducing tax measures which raise little in tax simply to make the masses feel better. It's also worth bearing in mind the following:

1) 60% of households are net recipients from the Treasury.

2) The top 10% of households contribute, on average, five times more than they get back.

So bearing this in mind, I think the top earners already contribute a huge amount despite the fact that some of the 60% of net recipients think they deserve even more in hand outs.

I don't believe you should let criminals off because it is difficult to catch them. If you misunderstood my comment then I hope that is a clearer way of putting it.

If you try to tell me that is not happening I cannot agree with you because I have direct experience of both tax dodgers who have been reported and allowed to continue dodging and pensioners that are being hounded for increased tax payments i.e. my mum.

[Road_Hog]

1) 60% of households are net recipients from the Treasury.

What a load of b0ll0cks. Don't believe anything that toenails (Nick Robinson) tells you.

[CB100]

I agree with you. I also think that the rich should all pay their dues. But I also think society should get off this blame game with the rich because their taxes fund a lot of their benefits and there ought to be some appreciation of that fact.

I don't believe you should let criminals off because it is difficult to catch them. If you misunderstood my comment then I hope that is a clearer way of putting it.

If you try to tell me that is not happening I cannot agree with you because I have direct experience of both tax dodgers who have been reported and allowed to continue dodging and pensioners that are being hounded for increased tax payments i.e. my mum.

[lankou]

[CB100]

Yes I heard the guy on the radio making that link last night. Amusing.

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[Francis Overdere]

It's a shocker I agree. In my view only the poorest should be net recipients but that is presumably the consequences of 15 years of Labour creating ever more welfare dependency higher and higher up the income scale.

I got the information here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15843746

Cue howls of derision from the conspiracy theorists saying the BBC are in on the fiddle...

To reduce that amount would mean more means testing and could lead to further complications.

In pension credit alone, £3 billion is unclaimed. If you means tested for say fuel allowance and it was apparent the applicant actually qualified for a benefit he wasn't receiving the government would be morally obliged to ensure that was paid too.

It would be the same with say family allowance. If it was means tested it may be discovered that low paid workers aren't claiming a small amount of housing benefit they may be entitled to.

So you can't just say that paying only the poorest would save much money.

[Jim S]

And all this spending on welfare is funding a lifestyle that the country can't afford.
In 2011-12 we had a deficit of £121 billion. Total spending on welfare alone was £232 billion.
Then we wonder why we can't get a government with a change of policies when 60% of the electorate is bought and paid for.

[Francis Overdere]

And all this spending on welfare is funding a lifestyle that the country can't afford.
In 2011-12 we had a deficit of £121 billion. Total spending on welfare alone was £232 billion.
Then we wonder why we can't get a government with a change of policies when 60% of the electorate is bought and paid for.

But we've had a government with a change of policies. Labour tried to introduce welfare reform and mainly failed. The Tories got in on a promise to reform it and are making things worse by throwing thousands out of work.

It won't change until jobs are created for British people, mass immigration is stopped and any unemployed foreigners sent home.