Ok maybe I got a bit carried away and extreme

[Flibbertigibbet]

Apologies for any personal offence I may have caused.

The ethical dilemma is very stark.

We are going to become an ethnic minority in our own country if something isn't done. Do we have the luxury of ethics in such a situation, or do we even have the right to condemn our descendants to that?

[Chrono Mizaki]

Apologies for any personal offence I may have caused.

If your apologetic nature towards those include me, then I apologise for being disrespectful towards you in the later argumements.

We are going to become an ethnic minority in our own country if something isn't done. Do we have the luxury of ethics in such a situation, or do we even have the right to condemn our descendants to that?

Something can be done to procure your race. As I keep saying, it doesn't have to involve the banishment of ethnic minorities that settle their life up to sixty seventy years.

[Flibbertigibbet]

If your apologetic nature towards those include me, then I apologise for being disrespectful towards you in the later argumements.


Something can be done to procure your race. As I keep saying, it doesn't have to involve the banishment of ethnic minorities that settle their life up to sixty seventy years.

Yes my apology certainly included you because I don't think it's right to abuse any individual because of his race.

But this comes to the heart of the dilemma. This is not about individuals but sheer numbers.

[flamingreen]

If your apologetic nature towards those include me, then I apologise for being disrespectful towards you in the later argumements.


Something can be done to procure your race. As I keep saying, it doesn't have to involve the banishment of ethnic minorities that settle their life up to sixty seventy years.

LOLS surely you mean secure?!?

And surely you mean '... that have been settled here all their lives, for up to sixty or seventy years...'?!?!

[flamingreen]

Flibbers,

I agree with you that the situation is sooooo desperate, if our country is to be saved, then we simply cannot afford the probity, decency and consideration for the feelings and expectations of everyone that most British people would, in an ideal situation, like to uphold.

At the same time such considerations cannot be entirley abandoned. This is where the BNP have gone wrong (and of course they have beent the victims of an unparalleled campaign of vilification by the media and by the Globalists and Globalist apologists). We need a nationalist party that does draw clear blue lines about upholdign certain standards of decency and fairness however so that the slipperry slope fallacy (*really* this is a *Nazi* party) cannto be held against them.

In order to achieve this there has to be an acceptance that whats done, to a large extent cannot be undone; we cannot return to a pre WW2 demography ofa 'white' Britain, all that can be acheived now at best, is a Britain where ethnic British secure our position as the majority ethnic group, and retain democratic control of our country by either exiting the EU or insisting on being semi-detached (damage limitation).

I am not hopeful however, not at all, as the situation is now being made far worse by factionalim among anti Globalists who are splintering into civic and ethno nats, and British v. regionalist nats (many of the latter who seem to be more focussed on regionalism and internal conflict than the far far gretaer problem of mass immigration, colonisation by foreigners and domination by the EU). I suspect that this internal faux nationalism is beign encouraged and fermented by pro EU Globalists, in much the same way as the CIA fermented petty nationalism in the old Soviet Union to destroy it from inside out.

[Flibbertigibbet]

Flibbers,

I agree with you that the situation is sooooo desperate, if our country is to be saved, then we simply cannot afford the probity, decency and consideration for the feelings and expectations of everyone that most British people would, in an ideal situation, like to uphold.

At the same time such considerations cannot be entirley abandoned. This is where the BNP have gone wrong (and of course they have beent the victims of an unparalleled campaign of vilification by the media and by the Globalists and Globalist apologists). We need a nationalist party that does draw clear blue lines about upholdign certain standards of decency and fairness however so that the slipperry slope fallacy (*really* this is a *Nazi* party) cannto be held against them.

In order to achieve this there has to be an acceptance that whats done, to a large extent cannot be undone; we cannot return to a pre WW2 demography ofa 'white' Britain, all that can be acheived now at best, is a Britain where ethnic British secure our position as the majority ethnic group, and retain democratic control of our country by either exiting the EU or insisting on being semi-detached.

The BNP don't have a policy of forced deportation, but will encourage voluntary emmigration with subsidies both to the individuals and countries that accept them, which surely benefits all parties. They will also, as I understand it, abolish all race discrimination laws.

[flamingreen]

The BNP don't have a policy of forced deportation, but will encourage voluntary emmigration with subsidies both to the individuals and countries that accept them, which surely benefits all parties. They will also, as I understand it, abolish all race discrimination laws.

However their eagerness to deport has been their nemesis. Their enemies (and they have many of all politcal persuausions) have use dand abused this policy to suggest that they actually do intend to carry out forced deportations, even though this is clealry not in their manifesto. They have also foolishly far too often allowed themselves to be trapped into talkign about 'colour', when it is not colour per se that matters. Any party to enjoy success must focus on t he positive, being pro ethnic British not anti foreigner, holding out a vison of a better Britain not just indulging inwhinging about race. They need to attack existign dogma not constantly bein g on the back foot. The BNP however is not the party to do this, they are too tarnished by past errors. They would now need a superlatively charismatic talented leader to lift them out of the mire they have been sucked into. Sadly such people are rare indeed (its not as if the three big parties hav e anyone of great calibre either).

[Chrono Mizaki]

LOLS surely you mean secure?!?

And surely you mean '... that have been settled here all their lives, for up to sixty or seventy years...'?!?!

I was in a rush (My dad was picking me up at my Accommodation). I made a lot of grammatical errors.

[flamingreen]

I was in a rush (My dad was picking me up at my Accommodation). I made a lot of grammatical errors.

OK 6/10 "Can do better" then!

[Chrono Mizaki]

OK 6/10 "Can do better" then!

You troll you...

*ahem*

Any party to enjoy success must focus on t he positive, being pro ethnic British not anti foreigner, holding out a vison of a better Britain not just indulging inwhinging about race.

Pretty much agree with this. Nationalist Party easily fall into the trap of hatred and contempt for other races than love and admiration for their own race. I can't remember the last party that did that (if the message was love and support for their own race, it was overshadowed by bashing Muslims and black culture).

You can have a party that supports co-existence and the preservation of their own race. I believe in that. What many will disagree with on is that I believe race preservation should not be a national level, but a personal level. So I'd say discuss with the community and have meetings. Have groups if you want. Get the message across in a communal way.

It shouldn't have to be mandated because it conflicts with freedom of expression.