Caught out?

[Nickerlarse]

Try reading my post again, this time noting the quote, which you left out for some reason.

The rest is hedging on your part.

I am a patient and fair man Gillam. Of course I will read your post again, if you tell me to which one you refer.
Why do you say that I am hedging? If you will kindly ask clear, unambiguous questions, I will give you clear, umambiguous answers, to the best of my ability, knowledge and belief. If I am unable to answer your questions, I will tell you the reason why. Surely you can't call that hedging, can you? In return, perhaps you could kindly answer the questions that I have asked you in this thread. I feel sure that you wouldn't wish to be accused of hedging either.

[Gillam]

You are well aware of which post: #68

The rest is hedging.

[Nickerlarse]

You are well aware of which post: #68

The rest is hedging.

"You are well aware of which post: #68"
No I am not. I will read it again now. Back in a jiffy!........
I have returned.......OK I have read it!

"The rest is hedging"
No it isn't! My offer stands.

[Papa Luigi]

You may indeed but do you consider them a Nationalist party Papa? Obviously before you say you might not consider the BNP a Nationalist party those who make up it numbers are still British Nationalists.

I don't regard UKIP as sufficiently nationalist to warrant my support, however it does profess policies that some would regard as nationalistic and I am aware that many of its members and supporters are nationalists.

As you have already deduced, judging by your answer above, while the BNP does possess many members who are indeed nationalists and would qualify as a nationalist party, there are elements within the party who are of dubious merit, and just as one might doubt the sincerity of the UKIP hierachy, so one might similarly doubt the sincerity of some of the BNP hierachy.

[Papa Luigi]

The motions from the conference had to ratified. If it's any help, many of those at the meeting, including myself, voted against, but it was those proxy (ie: postal) that turned the votes. Plus quite a few present who voted in favour.
In the LE itself, I voted for Andrew, and would have voted for Richard. I know without any doubt that the election itself was well run and perfectly above board. Ask Andrew and Richard, they were there too.

You cannot know anything of the sort. You only witnessed the counting of those ballot papers that made it through the postal system, i.e. that the state security services allowed to be counted. How many genuine ballot papers were diverted and put through the shredder, and how many of the ballot papers that reached Geoff Dickens were forgeries created by MI5, we may never know.

[Gaucho]

You cannot know anything of the sort. You only witnessed the counting of those ballot papers that made it through the postal system, i.e. that the state security services allowed to be counted. How many genuine ballot papers were diverted and put through the shredder, and how many of the ballot papers that reached Geoff Dickens were forgeries created by MI5, we may never know.

LITTLE do we know what went on.

[Sheepy]

I don't regard UKIP as sufficiently nationalist to warrant my support, however it does profess policies that some would regard as nationalistic and I am aware that many of its members and supporters are nationalists.

As you have already deduced, judging by your answer above, while the BNP does possess many members who are indeed nationalists and would qualify as a nationalist party, there are elements within the party who are of dubious merit, and just as one might doubt the sincerity of the UKIP hierachy, so one might similarly doubt the sincerity of some of the BNP hierachy.

The same could be said for any other party about doubting the hierarchy Papa.I agree that UKIP does have some very good Nationalists by the way,I have spoken with many of them and on another question one of them quite righty said it is the members and what they do at ground level that really counts.Blood is thicker than water in other words.
I don't take much notice of Polls but according to most of them UKIP are hot on the heels of the Lib Dums.

[retread]

You cannot know anything of the sort. You only witnessed the counting of those ballot papers that made it through the postal system, i.e. that the state security services allowed to be counted. How many genuine ballot papers were diverted and put through the shredder, and how many of the ballot papers that reached Geoff Dickens were forgeries created by MI5, we may never know.

Who knows. Regardless of any of the above, the real subversion of the election was surely the deliberate deception perpetrated by Nick Griffin against his own members, when he told them what are now known to be blatant lies about the party accounts.

[Smell the Coffee FFS]

I don't regard UKIP as sufficiently nationalist to warrant my support, however it does profess policies that some would regard as nationalistic and I am aware that many of its members and supporters are nationalists.

As you have already deduced, judging by your answer above, while the BNP does possess many members who are indeed nationalists and would qualify as a nationalist party, there are elements within the party who are of dubious merit, and just as one might doubt the sincerity of the UKIP hierachy, so one might similarly doubt the sincerity of some of the BNP hierachy.

I am sorry but I seem to have missed the rule book on who is and is not a Nationalist. Must one support foreign ideologies and hate Jews to be a Nationalist? Will being closet gay suffice? Or must one have one's photographs splashed all over the internet pictured in an orgy with lesbian wives using dildos? Maybe pilfering millions from the cause is sufficient I don’t know. However we have Papa to save us, prey tell papa what is a Nationalist in Britain?

[Sharon Ebanks]

My only response is, is why are there people stupid enough to leave money like that to Griffin...They should have left it to a cancer charity.