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    Yes Road Hog .. Agreed. Perhaps our politicians should look to Australia for direction and public outrage and response to lies.

    To decimate a political party that will probably never see power again may ram it home to those here that support lies and fraud.. Gleick is a hero according to some of the warmists. Gleick is a confessed liar, thief and a criminal and should go to prison. If this is the type of hero the warmists look up to then they need serious help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besoeker View Post
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    Climate change does indeed exist. It's always existed; the climate has always changed. As the Earth warms up the ice melts, as the ice melts the oceans cool, as the oceans cool the climate cools, as the climate cools ice forms, the oceans left warm up, as the oceans warm up the climate warms up, as the climate warms up the ice melts, as the ice melts the oceans cool and round-and-round-and-round we go.

    So yes, I do believe in climate change. Do I believe in the mass hysteria that we are the causes therefore should pay huge amounts of tax and that it should be used to enslave us even further under the jack-boots of multi-national corporations? No, I certainly do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post
    Right, you've read the responses.
    So I should believe the opinions posted here from those with no background in science as being more authorative than those of a senior scientist?
    Is that your message?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy ToXen View Post
    Do I believe in the mass hysteria...
    Exactly what mass hysteria?
    Front page headline news in the press?
    Lead stories in television or radio news bulletins?
    Masses of people taking to the streets?
    A hot topic in the pubs?
    Discussed with neighbours over the garden fence?

    To be blunt, my observation is most of the general public are pretty much indifferent about the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besoeker View Post
    So I should believe the opinions posted here from those with no background in science as being more authorative than those of a senior scientist?
    Is that your message?
    So what is wrong with excepting the opinion of all the senior scientists that don't think global warming is going to be a problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besoeker View Post
    So I should believe the opinions posted here from those with no background in science as being more authorative than those of a senior scientist?
    Is that your message?
    Senior scientists lie, they've been caught out lying many times. Should believe someone just because they are a scientist?

    That is my message.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland View Post
    So what is wrong with excepting the opinion of all the senior scientists that don't think global warming is going to be a problem?
    Nothing wrong with excepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post
    Senior scientists lie, they've been caught out lying many times. Should believe someone just because they are a scientist?
    People in all walks of life lie and cheat.
    Can you demonstrate, with robust supporting evidence, the lies, if there are any, in the article I cited?
    Last edited by Besoeker; 26-03-2012 at 06:11 PM. Reason: Cited, not posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besoeker View Post
    People in all walks of life lie and cheat.
    Can you demonstrate, with robust supporting evidence, the lies, if there are any, in the article I cited?
    I never said that there were any lies in your article, don't twist my words.

    What I did say is,

    Quote Originally Posted by Road_Hog View Post
    Senior scientists lie, they've been caught out lying many times.
    Which part of that do you not understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Besoeker View Post
    From the article:


    FWIW, the UK has had above average temperatures for six months in a row. Going back to January 2011 only two of the fourteen months have been below the 1961-1990 average. They were July and August last year at -0.2C and -0.1C respectively. By contrast, a couple of months were more than 3C above average.
    BS, can You stop editing My posts please. I have asked You too many times before.

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