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[Traditionalist]

Join the Traditional Britain Group.
The home of the real Conservatives not Camerons pc liberals.

http://www.traditionalbritain.org/

The British nation, its institutions, peoples, traditions, and history has been undermined and attacked repeatedly over the last fifty years by those who teach in our schools and universities, cynical politicians in our Parliament and the self-interested officials in our communities and institutions.
Today the Traditional Britain Group has been reinvigorated by a new, dynamic generation of young, intelligent and passionate people, determined to make a difference and show that there is, will be, and has always been an alternative – real conservatism

[Traditionalist]

[Robert Edwards]

Backward-looking reactionaries, stuck in the past ... out of step, out of date and out of tune.

Batten is a boring bloke, mumbling about the "traditions and values" of a ruling class that went out with Downton Abbey.

[Traditionalist]

Backward-looking reactionaries, stuck in the past ... out of step, out of date and out of tune.

Batten is a boring bloke, mumbling about the "traditions and values" of a ruling class that went out with Downton Abbey.

Well 40 years of liberalism seems quite out of date to me.
We are run on the basis of ideas from 1960's left wing students.

[Robert Edwards]

Well 40 years of liberalism seems quite out of date to me.
We are run on the basis of ideas from 1960's left wing students.

I am no liberal. You should remember that traditional Conservative economics is based on liberal laissez-faire economics.

Free trade is liberal economics.

[Traditionalist]

This 'modernising' government is turning the clock back – to the violence and illiteracy of the 18th century

I think it was the recent trial of the couple who murderd a little boy because they believed he was a witch that started me thinking about that dishonest way of thinking. Lots of people here in England used to believe in witchcraft, and witches were tortured and burned to death. Such barbarous atrocities were stopped long years ago, but oddly enough it is again the modernisers who have themselves turned the clock back to those days when people believed in witchcraft.
Nor is that all. Once not so very long ago tuberculosis was a widespread fatal disease here. Good public health policies began to overcome TB during the early 20th century; by the 1950s it was almost eliminated, and by the late 1970s just about extinct. Over the last 15 years the clock has been turned back, and TB is now back in our great cities.
In the 18th century, alcoholism was a terrible scourge. Hogarth's famous engravings of drunken poverty, showing stricken mothers with babies falling from their drunken grasp, helped shame both government and society into action. We never eliminated alcoholism, but the dreadful sight of mothers drunk and incapable in the streets was, by the early 20th century, seen no more. Today, at weekends, there are drunken, fighting, vomiting, urinating, fornicating youngsters laden with cheap lager and vodka in the streets of our great cities. The clock has been turned back to Hogarth's time.
The poverty-stricken alcoholics of the 18th century lived their miserable lives in appalling slums, but by the mid 20th century such slums had all but disappeared.
Now they are back. Overcrowded, filthy, insanitary houses with dirty, broken-down sheds in what were once their back gardens have brought the Third World into England. Once we took our standards into the Third World; now the flow has been reversed.
We even have people-trafficking once again, with stories of men and women being held prisoner to work for pitifully low wages and young women forced into prostitution. All evils which we had eliminated from these islands many years ago.
Where until recently respectable people could walk at night without fear of being assaulted and robbed at knifepoint, "mugging" is now a commonplace. The only difference is that whilst in the 18th and 19th century respectable men could carry a sword stick, pistol or revolver to protect themselves, that is now prohibited.
Robbery with violence as a nightly, even daily, occurrence is back in our great cities. The footpads have returned. The clock has been turned back.
From being a nation which enjoyed almost 100 per cent literacy, we are now having to deal with a growing number of illiterate and innumerate youngsters ill-equipped for anything except lives of poverty or welfare addiction. Our school clocks have been turned back a couple of hundred years.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/no...-18th-century/

[Robert Edwards]

So not much has changed then. The social history of England is one of the exploitation of the ordinary people by a brutal and powerful ruling class.

What we have today is a return to those days, where employment laws and a minimum wage are attacked by reactionaries like you.

[Traditionalist]

It was traditional Conservatives like Disraeli that greatly improved the conditions of the working class.
As to wage levels the biggest factor keeping them down is immigration which we oppose.

[longjohn]

Join the Traditional Britain Group.
The home of the real Conservatives not Camerons pc liberals.

http://www.traditionalbritain.org/

The British nation, its institutions, peoples, traditions, and history has been undermined and attacked repeatedly over the last fifty years by those who teach in our schools and universities, cynical politicians in our Parliament and the self-interested officials in our communities and institutions.
Today the Traditional Britain Group has been reinvigorated by a new, dynamic generation of young, intelligent and passionate people, determined to make a difference and show that there is, will be, and has always been an alternative – real conservatism

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[Robert Edwards]

It was traditional Conservatives like Disraeli that greatly improved the conditions of the working class.

What, during the Victorian era? Don't make me laugh. Dickens described it in his novels.

As to wage levels the biggest factor keeping them down is immigration which we oppose.

You may oppose immigration but not a decent wage. To the Tories, the working class are there to be used and abused.