English Democrat's Chairman on TV!

[cassie]

I've not demanded anything.

Not so!

Unlike you, writing to members of parliament who do not represent you

This really shows how absurd Sebbie is! No one may write to MPs other than one's constituency MP! No one, not lawyers, not police, not local councillors, not researchers. This sounds like the kind of 'democratic rule' one might encounter in Zimbabwe.

and demanding they answer your questions about their ethnicity, then whining about it when they quite rightly throw your letters in the bin.

You do have a distorted outlook on life Sebbie! Do all non-White, anti-English folk like you feel the same?

[cassie]

When have I demanded answers from anyone? Please show me where I have done this or withdraw that accusation

By the same token, neither have I. care to prove[ otherwise?

I have asked questions on a public forum. Isn't that what it is there for?

No, not in the unqualified, unrestricted, destructive way you and many others do.

Other MPs are not there for that.

You are entitled to your opinion, however silly and unacceptable.

I can ask what my own MP thinks of a topic if I choose to, and there is an argument that he should at least acknowledge that, given that he is accountable to me. I have never felt the need to do so as it happens, but there you go.

Who cares what you, an anti-English, anonymous coward do?

Your MP, cassie's MP, anyone else's MP - they are not accountable to me and are well within their rights to ignore my enquiry, which is what the vast majority did to cassie.

You must feel so glad, and experience schadenfreude! It'll be the German in you coming out!

[cassie]

As I have said before butterfly effect, the EDs do not seem to have grasped the fact that, to get anyone elected, they really need to get away from the idea that anyone who asks anything at all from them is trying to cause trouble or taking liberties by doing so.

It appears that they expect everyone to vote for them based on the fact that they have English in their name, and people are English. Stands to reason then surely? Well, no actually. It does not. Clearly. Because not very many people vote English Democrat.

I suspect that a lot of people are sympathetic to the main thrust of the EDs' argument, but without details they won't give them their votes. And you can't get details without asking questions, which the EDs refuse to answer.

Cassie is always on about 'casual observers' on this forum, but what would they actually see? Yes they will see people criticising but they won't find out anything about ED policy, they will just see the few ED members here countering the criticism by insulting those who criticise (cassie) and slagging off One England (Northumbrian).

I'll wager you believe in the tooth fairy also!

[cassie]

When I first came onto this forum I asked a question, quite politely, on all of the English nationalist parties sections here. I demanded nothing; I was not belligerent, aggressive or mocking. The first of any of the party’s members to respond was you. But, rather than answer the simple question that I asked you came right in with another question.
I, rather naively it now turns out,expected the largest of the English nationalist parties to be more welcoming of inquirers.

I have since then ventured to the EDP Face book site (liberally peppered with nutters and racists) and looked at Steve Uncles English Passport blog (well deserving of the ‘pisspot’ epithet). The EDP seems to be fitted for Government in the respect that no one is willing to give a straight answer and when there is an answer it is not trusted to be the truth.

I have yet to come across anyone on this forum, the EDP Facebook page or Mr Uncles Blog that can be classed as an ambassador for the EDP, let alone English nationalism.

Well, Mr Aggrieved, what is your motive for persisting in lurking here?

[cassie]

I had the same response a long time ago (not from Northumbrian though). I nearly joined until I came across Uncles and cassie on here and a few others elsewhere. Uncles is obviously the most significant given his standing in the party and he seemed, bizarrely, to do his utmost to drive people away from the party. Cassie does the same on a regular basis and even though he has a trivial position in the party that is not immediately obvious to newcomers given his manner on here.

There were a few more sensible members. Most of them seem to have left.

I shall be very generous and say they are suffering from a siege mentality given the frequent criticism they get even though this is almost entirely their own fault and usually totally justified. To be a serious party they need to show they can act professionally and rise above all that. I can accept the occasional rogue member but when it was someone senior like Uncles (now banned of course which given the easy going rules of this forum is amazing in itself) or someone so incessant like cassie then you have to question the ability of those in charge of the party. In fairness, it's not unusual for a very small and new party but the EDs should really have moved on from that stage by now (with 3000 members ).

Do as I say and not as I do, eh? You haven't moved on either, or we'd not be continuing to 'enjoy' your indignant posts!

[SteveShark]

No, not in the unqualified, unrestricted, destructive way you and many others do.

In that case, it follows that those who post here should be qualified, restricted and constructive.

Care to exercise your intellect on clarifying those qualities?

What qualifications and restrictions should apply?

Who defines what is constructive?

[SteveShark]

Well, Mr Aggrieved, what is your motive for persisting in lurking here?

You do realise that you're just proving Butterfly Effect's point, don't you?

Of course, BE could be a troll, but if not, you've hardly done 'the Cause' much good, have you?

[Richard of England]

Personally I think Tilbrook has been Chairman for far too long and should go. The EDP should also get itself a good leader if it is to advance from its present weak position.

[SteveShark]

Personally I think Tilbrook has been Chairman for far too long and should go. The EDP should also get itself a good leader if it is to advance from its present weak position.

Do you really think this is possible with the departure of so many active members and the influx of ex-BNP members?

[Northumbrian]

When have I demanded answers from anyone? Please show me where I have done this or withdraw that accusation

I have asked questions on a public forum. Isn't that what it is there for?

I'm sorry. You've asked - not demanded.

Your MP, cassie's MP, anyone else's MP - they are not accountable to me and are well within their rights to ignore my enquiry, which is what the vast majority did to cassie.

Am I, then?