British Nationalism ruined

[Marilyn]

Well said Lily... the undertow of WNers that obsess with Hitler, Holocaust denial, joose ad infinitum etc. is what gives them an aura of madness. No-one sane wants to be tainted with them. On another thread I comment on a video of Jared Taylor which gives a different approach, and to such I will at least listen.

Whilst agreeing that British Nationalism is possibly on it's last legs, my views of the causes may be different. I've made no secret about the fact that I am an outsider to nationalism, and also the fact that I have sympathies with British Nationalists, but definately not with 'white nationalism' which I regard to be foreign and more globalist breed.

British Nationalism, as represented by the BNP could have survived all it's opposition, internal strife and corrupt leadership in the same way that other parties have done, and even grown stronger because of it.
The one effective weapon your enemies had was the past flirtations with Nazi type and ideas , move away from this and it would have been a major step. The prominent, persistant (and shady) presence of WN's, the fact that they have not been isolated, and shown the door that leads to the NF, has been a major achilles heel. Even to date we have constant lauding of Nazi Germany (yesterday), constant banging on about the Jews and the holocaust, and analysis about how infererior other races are... none of which have have any direct bearing on Brtitish Nationalism (in fact none whatsoever IMO)

I don't know if other countries are suffering this effect too. but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the aim of WN is to neutralise the effect of 'local' nationalisms when they begin to show differences of opinion.

[Dee-Dee]

Whilst agreeing that British Nationalism is possibly on it's last legs, my views of the causes may be different. I've made no secret about the fact that I am an outsider to nationalism, and also the fact that I have sympathies with British Nationalists, but definately not with 'white nationalism' which I regard to be foreign and more globalist breed.

British Nationalism, as represented by the BNP could have survived all it's opposition, internal strife and corrupt leadership in the same way that other parties have done, and even grown stronger because of it.
The one effective weapon your enemies had was the past flirtations with Nazi type and ideas , move away from this and it would have been a major step. The prominent, persistant (and shady) presence of WN's, the fact that they have not been isolated, and shown the door that leads to the NF, has been a major achilles heel. Even to date we have constant lauding of Nazi Germany (yesterday), constant banging on about the Jews and the holocaust, and analysis about how infererior other races are... none of which have have any direct bearing on Brtitish Nationalism (in fact none whatsoever IMO)

I don't know if other countries are suffering this effect too. but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the aim of WN is to neutralise the effect of 'local' nationalisms when they begin to show differences of opinion.

Can't rep you for that, but would have. Well stated.

[CllrMick]

Why so bitter you ask?

I put my whole life into the cause just to have it thrown back in my face. There is NO viable option for us now thanks to these ****. Heres a brief list of options:

You missed one. Start your own nationalist party, and as the only member you alone can hover your finger over the self destruct button and can blame no-one else for it's demise.

[LogicAndFairness]

There is such a hysteria over the ultimate taboo of White people being racially loyal. To not be racially loyal is to be dead as a people. Dying is the "nice" thing that our people should do to be popular though. So say the likes of Marilyn and LTP. So perhaps we should sweetly oblige.

[Dee-Dee]

There is such a hysteria over the ultimate taboo of White people being racially loyal. To not be racially loyal is to be dead as a people. Dying is the "nice" thing that our people should do to be popular though. So say the likes of Marilyn and LTP. So perhaps we should sweetly oblige.

They have never said anything of the sort and you know it. But it would be nice if you'd oblige.

[Marilyn]

There is such a hysteria over the ultimate taboo of White people being racially loyal. To not be racially loyal is to be dead as a people. Dying is the "nice" thing that our people should do to be popular though. So say the likes of Marilyn and LTP. So perhaps we should sweetly oblige.

Stop lying LaF, you keep on making up nonsense and look ridiculous using such hyperbole.

[Eijnar]

I agree except the over conspiratorial idea that it was all planned. Rather kick the can down the road for the next person to deal with. Things are going to get a lot worse and no one can say what will happen. It was not just money that did us in it was the way in which trivial success went to people's heads.

What we can be sure of is that what nationalists have said is all turning out to be true regarding immigration and the EU and PC - and seen to be true. It's grimly amusing to see the politicians twisting in the wind trying to make it look as though they have answers. They are even trying to get shops to take on UK workers when they've relinquished the power to do so.

In crisis opportunity.

When the Mail calls for the rehabilitation of Powell.....

I understand very well how difficult it is for you to believe that our existing economic conditions have been brought about by careful deliberation rather than simple greed and stupidity but I can assure you that your opinion would not survive a study of "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" by Eustace Mullins. I urge you to read this book as it will rip the scales from your eyes and allow you to understand the real meaning of evil as the worlds top bankers and financiers have deliberately caused BOTH world wars ,the collapse of both the Emperor of China and the Czar of Russia and the Great Depression amongst other things! Everything that is now taking place has been PLANNED and is going to plan!The worlds super rich are getting richer by the second as share values and land values fall,gold rises and governments are being forced to sell off assets at fire sale prices at a time when only the cash rich can take advantage of these offers! Does this all sound like a co-incidence?,oddly enough we had EXACTLY the same conditions after the Wall Street Crash and the withdrawal of cheap credit by the US Federal Reserve,which is a PRIVATELY owned bank and required to make a profit,also caused that banking collapse as well as this one! The shareholders of the US Federal Reserve System are ALL big name private banks that profit enormously from knowing what the economy will be like in a years time because they control the interest rate and the money supply. If you can explain the difference between what they do and Insider Dealing,which gets you 30 years in a US Federal Prison,then I should be much obliged to you!

[Nickerlarse]

If Mark is who I think he is, then he clearly still has psychological issues, believing he was just about to be the first BNP MP.

The above was not Mark Collett's opinion, it was mine. You and Darby are both wrong in your assumption.

Most of us have been guilty of youthful indiscretions, including MC. Unfortunately Mark was exposed to the glare of publicity over his. He put his hands up, and moved on.
He was becoming a perceived threat to the beloved permanent leader's supremacy, and to the International Expert Snake Oil Salesman's personal enrichment scheme. That is why he was stitched up. He was not the first or the last of many that were expunged for similar reasons.

[Sheepy]

The above was not Mark Collett's opinion, it was mine. You and Darby are both wrong in your assumption.

Most of us have been guilty of youthful indiscretions, including MC. Unfortunately Mark was exposed to the glare of publicity over his. He put his hands up, and moved on.
He was becoming a perceived threat to the beloved permanent leader's supremacy, and to the International Expert Snake Oil Salesman's personal enrichment scheme. That is why he was stitched up. He was not the first or the last of many that were expunged for similar reasons.

How many more youthful indiscretions would you like us to smooth over Nickerlarse?.

[Nickerlarse]

How many more youthful indiscretions would you like us to smooth over Nickerlarse?.

It is impossible to give an answer to such an ambiguous question. May I ask you a couple instead?

Were you ever young Sheepy?
Did you ever commit any youthful indiscretions?
Ok one more please.
Do you consider that your youthful indiscretions (if any) belong in the past?