Is it time?

[paralreg]

Is it time indeed?
For what?
To put to bed the weak and feeble concept of an English Nation, that's what!
As I look in this Forum I clearly see English Nationalism does not live here anymore, there are parties, with no doubt genuine and solid English Nationalist members, who are I believe betraying this grassroots force through inaction and their jobs for the boys mentality. I write this with a heavy heart, having gone to the "available" web pages of nationalist groups and parties the non party groups seem solid and firm but rudderless, the party groups are wracked with dissent and confusion as people move from party to party seemingly using their very presence to damage even deny the credibility of their new party. UKIP and ex BNPer's are not English nationalist types, perhaps at least some may indeed have had a change of heart, but most I fear have not!

SO whats it to be, continue bickering or call it off?
The result is the same, a demeaning of the English Nationalist cause leaving us to live in a country where its own government does not call it by its own name, ENGLAND! Remember it?

[chimera]

"leaving us to live in a country where its own government does not call it by its own name, ENGLAND! "
Eh what? The only government is the CE Synod, luckily it's not Church of United Kingdom, the initials aren't good.

[ron]

SO whats it to be, continue bickering or call it off?

Just have to hope the Scots help us. We don't seem capable of doing it ourselves.

[chimera]

There would never have been this sort of sloppy chaos when expanding into Wales and Ireland. Even York and Lancaster agreed on what the game was.So if the centre holds the power, then Brussels must decide the outcome. Try emailing them.

[Northumbrian]

[COLOR="#FF0000"]Is it time indeed?
As I look in this Forum I clearly see English Nationalism does not live here anymore, there are parties, with no doubt genuine and solid English Nationalist members, who are I believe betraying this grassroots force through inaction and their jobs for the boys mentality.

I wish you'd take some action. You've been writing the same comments over and over again.

[paralreg]

I wish you'd take some action. You've been writing the same comments over and over again.

Quite right I should and in a little time will, just a few things to clear away first so probably next tax year. A printing of a dollop of leaflets and distributing them to anybody with a counter and the willingness to let them be there shops, cafes, garages, truck stops and anywhere they don't mind them. A phone number and and email address will be on them along with a brief summary of the position that England's in. Nothing flash just simple informative and thought provoking, no, I have not got it right yet, it seems to be the hardest bit, putting it together, just so. I do not wish or intend to build a party if I am successful it will grow all on its own from the best roots in the world, the English people.
I know that I may well loose money, that's a given, at least I will have my self respect and if only 20 people take it forward from me my efforts will be rewarded, then I will have my pride as well.
What will the people who are bickering and sniping spewing bile and vitriol on each and every person they disagree with do when, as I hope, my actions bear fruit, or if they don't? Turn on me? It's a sort of tradition is it not? Why? because for them it is this simple if you do nowt then you can't fail.
If anybody wants to chip in with ideas for the leaflets or whatever, I would be happy to hear from them by PM, if they just want to chew on my ar5e they can get in line.

[ron]

Quite right I should and in a little time will, just a few things to clear away first so probably next tax year. A printing of a dollop of leaflets and distributing them to anybody with a counter and the willingness to let them be there shops, cafes, garages, truck stops and anywhere they don't mind them. A phone number and and email address will be on them along with a brief summary of the position that England's in. Nothing flash just simple informative and thought provoking, no, I have not got it right yet, it seems to be the hardest bit, putting it together, just so. I do not wish or intend to build a party if I am successful it will grow all on its own from the best roots in the world, the English people.
I know that I may well loose money, that's a given, at least I will have my self respect and if only 20 people take it forward from me my efforts will be rewarded, then I will have my pride as well.
What will the people who are bickering and sniping spewing bile and vitriol on each and every person they disagree with do when, as I hope, my actions bear fruit, or if they don't? Turn on me? It's a sort of tradition is it not? Why? because for them it is this simple if you do nowt then you can't fail.
If anybody wants to chip in with ideas for the leaflets or whatever, I would be happy to hear from them by PM, if they just want to chew on my ar5e they can get in line.

Well I'm not going to knock you and you should do what you think is best - but with the wide variety of organisations already existing I think it is better to join one of those than do something yourself. This forum gives a very bad impression of the various movements though sometimes accurate. It doesn't need to be a political party there are pressure groups and cultural groups available too. Unless you are a real perfectionist, and that is not a very realistic approach, then I would have thought one or more of these organisations would be acceptable.

[paralreg]

Well I'm not going to knock you and you should do what you think is best - but with the wide variety of organisations already existing I think it is better to join one of those than do something yourself. This forum gives a very bad impression of the various movements though sometimes accurate. It doesn't need to be a political party there are pressure groups and cultural groups available too. Unless you are a real perfectionist, and that is not a very realistic approach, then I would have thought one or more of these organisations would be acceptable.

I do not know or even think I know what is best, but all I can see even away from this forum is lots of words, lots and lots of words but little actual action for instance in Barnsley there was an EDP candidate standing in one of the council wards, I have lived here all my life and never knew the EDP existed out side Doncaster and their mans performance there is not to my mind impressive.
Other groups? Of course there are MANY, dozens probably, this does not inspire ones trust if they don't have the gumption to cooperate even unite in order to develop, a common sense action and clear to anyone outside of them. While this arena is far from the best for examining the nationalist cause it does show the deep isolationism that many create around their group and the bitterness that one can create in another, seriously just like spiteful kids. If one or more wants to use any interest that my ideas arouse they are welcome to do so but I do not want to be part of or answerable to a group I have to do what I feel is right, for me that is to get those who do not realise what is going on with our country to question the status quo by talking to friends and colleagues, forming loose social groups to raise the awareness in their area if these groups wish to join with some existing one then that will be a job well done on my part

[ron]

Although I am considered an anti-EDP agitator by cassie etc. I would recommend having a chat with the local EDP man. He could be one of the good ones and might just be disillusioned because he thinks nobody in the area or the party gives a toss - that reminds me a bit of Northumbrian after the last elections. The EDP might not be the way to go but that is not to say all individuals involved with the party are the same. Good luck with whatever you do.