Tilbrook again says no the English Independence.

[rjt]

I think he holds them, whatever they are.

So you dont know the views of the leader of the party you say you support?

[Cliff Dixon]

To avoid creating dictators like Blair, Brown, Clegg and Cameron perhaps? Never heard you complaining about the Green Party which did not have a single 'leader' until fairly recently with the election of Caroline Lucas!

After all, it is the English Democrats and they don't jump to your non-member tune Richard.

According to Robin Tilbrook, whilst his position is Chairman the Electoral Commission also regard him as the leader of the party. He has also, when annoyed, reminded me of this during a heated telephone conversation.

There was an attempt last year to put in place a procedure to elect a leader, as when the subject was brought up it was pointed out that no mechanism was in place to elect one. Sean Varnham submitted a draft proposal to the NC, but this was prevaricated over by certain of the leadership and was dropped when more moderate members of the NC either stepped down or left the party. Don't be fooled Cassie, Tilbrook is leader in all but name - He prefers the title Chairman to make him look more democratic.

[Sebastian Melmouth]

To avoid creating dictators like Blair, Brown, Clegg and Cameron perhaps? Never heard you complaining about the Green Party which did not have a single 'leader' until fairly recently with the election of Caroline Lucas!

After all, it is the English Democrats and they don't jump to your non-member tune Richard.

Do they jump to your restricted, half member tune though cassie?

Fact is you have no idea why the EDs do not have a 'Leader' do you? Information within the party doesn't quite trickle down as low as you does it? Is that why you come on here to pick up the latest news about the party you long to be properly involved with?

I can see why this must annoy you. Even people who don't support the EDs know more than you seem to

[cassie]

Does the position not interest you then cassie?

Not at the moment, thank you. NOT that it's any of your business!

Or do your heavily restricted membership terms not allow it?

I'm afraid you are misinformed.

[cassie]

So you dont know the views of the leader of the party you say you support?

THAT is a non sequitur!

It would be more relevant to say that I don't know what you are referring to. Clearly, it is beyond you to specify it precisely.

[cassie]

Do they jump to your restricted, half member tune though cassie?

Fact is you have no idea why the EDs do not have a 'Leader' do you? Information within the party doesn't quite trickle down as low as you does it? Is that why you come on here to pick up the latest news about the party you long to be properly involved with?

I can see why this must annoy you. Even people who don't support the EDs know more than you seem to

You could say all of this rubbish, but I'm confident that all reasonable folk will interpret your nasty, cheap posts for what they are!

[cassie]

According to Robin Tilbrook, whilst his position is Chairman the Electoral Commission also regard him as the leader of the party. He has also, when annoyed, reminded me of this during a heated telephone conversation.

we only have YOUR word for this. I don't believe you, as others are free to do also!

There was an attempt last year to put in place a procedure to elect a leader, as when the subject was brought up it was pointed out that no mechanism was in place to elect one. Sean Varnham submitted a draft proposal to the NC, but this was prevaricated over by certain of the leadership and was dropped when more moderate members of the NC either stepped down or left the party. Don't be fooled Cassie, Tilbrook is leader in all but name - He prefers the title Chairman to make him look more democratic.

I know the reality better than you Cliffie, and was aware of it well before you showed your face on the scene! It is the main reason why I'm relaxed about ex-BNP etc members who (as required) have accepted the EDP's stated principles joining the Party, despite all the frenetic jumping up and down indulged in by folk like you who, not content with taking your bat and ball home to defend your precious reputation, make strenuous efforts to damage the Party AND the reputations of others. Mr Rob and Sebastian Melmouth also engage in party and character assassination behind the supposed security of anonymity.

[Sebastian Melmouth]

I know the reality better than you Cliffie, and was aware of it well before you showed your face on the scene! It is the main reason why I'm relaxed about ex-BNP etc members who (as required) have accepted the EDP's stated principles joining the Party, despite all the frenetic jumping up and down indulged in by folk like you who, not content with taking your bat and ball home to defend your precious reputation, make strenuous efforts to damage the Party AND the reputations of others. Mr Rob and Sebastian Melmouth also engage in party and character assassination behind the supposed security of anonymity.

Haha. Excellent. Well before Cliff 'showed his face on the scene' eh? Would that be while you were still excluded from being a member of the English Democrats, having been the only person EVER to have been booted out of the party?

I am not sure you really have a reputation that can be damaged any more than it already is do you? And is it really only myself, Cliff, Mr Rob and others on here who originally damaged your reputation? Or could it in fact have also been senior English Democrat members?

I believe Steve Uncles posted on here some time ago, advising all members of the forum on how to ignore your posts (and revealing your real name in the process). More recently Stephen Morris, an ED NC member, gave details of how your membership was restricted, how it was considered unfortunate, and how you are not permitted to speak on behalf of the party.
So if you are complaining about damage to your reputation you may want to look closer to home. Well, 'restricted' home anyway

[rjt]

THAT is a non sequitur!

It would be more relevant to say that I don't know what you are referring to. Clearly, it is beyond you to specify it precisely.

His view that he does not go as far as suggesting and neither does the EDP party that the policy of the EDP should be one of English Indpendence, do you agree yes or no.

[Sebastian Melmouth]

I'm afraid you are misinformed.

It was a question.

And no, it probably isn't really my business. But then aren't you the one who is in the habit of writing nasty letters to politicians who are not accountable to you asking questions that are none of your business?