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    Default Scottish independence referendum should trigger EU vote: New blog

    As the EU seeks to centralise powers and stabilise the single currency, the British people should be given a say on where they want ultimate political power over them to lie.   We now know that there will be a referendum on Scotland’s relationship with the rest of Britain by the end of 2014. The [...]

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    If Scotland can have a referendum on independence

    I want a referendum on the new EU treaty
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    Some Scots, including former Scottish National Party deputy leader Jim Sillars, argue that a referendum on the relationship with British Westminster parliament will also require a vote on where Scotland stands concerning the European Union

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDP View Post
    Some Scots, including former Scottish National Party deputy leader Jim Sillars, argue that a referendum on the relationship with British Westminster parliament will also require a vote on where Scotland stands concerning the European Union
    I have often thought that although Scots Nats as a whole say no, as do the ones we get on this forum, I was startled to hear Alex Salmond just state Scotland would keep the pound until it decides to go into the Euro, that seems a touch arrogant to me that we would just allow him to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjt View Post
    I have often thought that although Scots Nats as a whole say no, as do the ones we get on this forum, I was startled to hear Alex Salmond just state Scotland would keep the pound until it decides to go into the Euro, that seems a touch arrogant to me that we would just allow him to do so.
    My feelings exactly. What these brainless numpties don't seem to understand - driven as they are by ideology (the EU) or anti-English hatred (SNP) - is that to control a currency, you HAVE (among other imperatives) to control public expenditure.

    If Scotland seperated, how would they feel if London said, "Hold on, no more free prescriptions, tuition for students, etc, etc. - you can't afford them"?

    I've been saying it since 1991; they're making it up (EU, single currency, bailouts, whatever) as they go along.
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    Also Steve, they are a militant lot, if they got independance say 3 years ago, they would be in exactly the same position as Greece is in now as they would have embarked on a socialist style spending spree on civil servants, pensions, roads, rail, bridges etc with no thoughts on how to pay it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by longbow64 View Post
    Also Steve, they are a militant lot, if they got independance say 3 years ago, they would be in exactly the same position as Greece is in now as they would have embarked on a socialist style spending spree on civil servants, pensions, roads, rail, bridges etc with no thoughts on how to pay it back.
    Yeah, I agree. I remember following the story of the Scottish parliament building closely while I lived there - Edinburgh was a magnificent place to live, pre-devolution.

    Originally, the Catalan architect Enric Miralles was going on a theme of upturned boats, costing 18 million. It was stylish, innovative, attractive, functional and cheap. He died sadly, before it was fully commissioned. The Old High School on Calton Hill would have been perfect, but the following debacle resulted in a stunningly ugly building that cost.....ready? ......414.

    Million.

    For 5.2 million people.
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