20 reasons why the SDP is good for the Working Class

[SDP]

All very emotive and melodramatic, but neither are the best foundations for political policy.

Are 40,000 lives about to be lost?

There are about 1,000,000 lives in danger in Africa, maybe we should pay to feed all of those as well!

There are a lot of things that people feel emotional about, do you want the UK taxpayer to fund all of those as well?

I note that you have moved ground and now admit the the fault lies not just with the UK Government but also with the women, the manufactureres and the EU so why should it ONLY be the UK taxpayer that pays?

You seem unwilling to admit that is will be the People of this country that you would make pay, that is where the Government money comes from.

As we know that the rich are able to evade paying their full share of taxes I am sure that the Working Class will be interested to see that you are only too ready to spend their hard earned money on a few women who gave in to their vanity.

Maybe you new slogan should be
"SDP, we will screw the working class majority to pay for the vanity of the few"!

ANGLO-STAFFS - Substandard Breast Implants

Of course we then get onto the definition of working class. I believe my definition of working class is broader than yours. I see the country as divided into two sections, the aristocratic rich and the working class.

I am only concerned with helping the working class, because the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer under this Conservative coalition.

Money is tight because of the recession, so we have to prioritise our spending. Priorities are hard to agree. Yes some money should go to help the starving people of the world but how much. I believe there are several billion people that dont get enough to eat on the earth, and we cannot afford to feed them all on our own.

Then there is the Trident Nuclear Weapons System that will cost 17 billion pounds. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost several billion ponds each. The banking bail out has cost a trillion pounds so far (a thousand billion pounds). There is the cost if immigration into Britain running at 575,000 new settlers a year.

Then we have the problem of 40,000 working class women whose lives are in danger. These are women in distress and they need our help. People are often the cause of their own downfall, but it does not means they are unworthy of assistance in a time of great need.

I see helping these 40,000 distressed working class women as a top priority for government spending because their lives are in danger, and certainly a higher proirity than a fancy firework display at the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games.

[SDP]

I have no sympathy for women who chose to have these implants and paid thousands of pounds for the operation! They should claim compensation from the manufacturers!
Those who had them for reconstruction reasons should question why they were approved when they are obviously not fit for purpose.

marjem

These substandard PIP breast implants were approved by the British government because they had the European Union CE quality mark. The European Union CE quality mark means that a product can be sold anywhere in the EU without further quality checks by the individual countries.

I dont believe that an individual EU country can stop a product being imported, if it has the CE quality mark. This is all about the laws relating to the EU Single Market Treaty.

I dont believe it is possible to sue the European Union, so the only person that can be sued is the British government for criminal negligence for approving these substandard PIP breast implants for use by women in Britain.

The French PIP breast implant manufacturer would not have the billions of pounds required to compensate all the thousands of women around the world that were sold these substandard breast implants.

[Little_Englander]

If women were to be denied NHS treatment because they, by buying breast implants, are deemed responsible for their own misfortune, where does that leave smokers, heavy drinkers, heavy eaters and those who fail to adequately exercise their bodies? It wouldn't be long before everyone had to apply for treatment and be assessed in front of a tribunal before being allowed treatment.

[ANGLO-STAFFS]

The French PIP breast implant manufacturer would not have the billions of pounds required to compensate all the thousands of women around the world that were sold these substandard breast implants.

But you think that the UK taxpayer has?

Will this be one of the things you will be pushing on the doorstep at your next election?

[SDP]

But you think that the UK taxpayer has?

Will this be one of the things you will be pushing on the doorstep at your next election?

ANGLO-STAFFS

If a woman fell into a ditch, I am sure you would help pull her out.

But your line of debate would tend to suggest the following line.

1/ How did you get in this ditch ?

2/ Are you party and wholly to blame for falling into the ditch ?

3/ Because I will only help pull you out, if you can convince me that you have not substantially contributed to this accident by your own mistakes or bad judgement.

4/ If it turns out that you fell into this ditch through your own bad judgment, you will have to pay for a private contrator to help you out. Otherwise you could be a drain on the public purse and this would be unfair to people who had been walking along this path more careful.

Where as if I found a woman in distress who had fallen into a ditch, I would just help her to get out as quickly as I could, and then call an ambulance if this was necessary.

[SDP]

But you think that the UK taxpayer has?

Will this be one of the things you will be pushing on the doorstep at your next election?

ANGLO-STAFFS

The next elections are local council elections, so this will not be an issue that would be relevant to local council elections.

At the next General Election there will be well over 3 million unemployed, and the National Debt will be over a trillion pounds (1000 billion pounds).

I do not think the man in the street will be thinking about breast implants at that time.

But the SDP believes in socialism. Socialism is all about caring for the health and happiness of the working class. There will be many more important issues to think about, that will be of concern to the British working class by 2015, such as mass unemployment.

[ANGLO-STAFFS]

ANGLO-STAFFS

If a woman fell into a ditch, I am sure you would help pull her out..

Yes i would help to pull her out, but i would not pay for her legal fees if she had to go to court to get some redress.

ANGLO-STAFFSWhere as if I found a woman in distress who had fallen into a ditch, I would just help her to get out as quickly as I could, and then call an ambulance if this was necessary.

Exactly, you would call an ambulance, because that is the system that is set up to deal with the situation, I notice that you did not say that you would force other people pay for a taxi or offer to pay yourself!

Is it now the official policy of the SDP to spend taxpayers hard earned money on every whim that you dream up?

PS. Apart from yourself is there anyone else in the SDP that thinks that the Working Class forms 99% of the UK population?

[SDP]

Yes i would help to pull her out, but i would not pay for her legal fees if she had to go to court to get some redress.

Exactly, you would call an ambulance, because that is the system that is set up to deal with the situation, I notice that you did not say that you would force other people pay for a taxi or offer to pay yourself!

Is it now the official policy of the SDP to spend taxpayers hard earned money on every whim that you dream up?

PS. Apart from yourself is there anyone else in the SDP that thinks that the Working Class forms 99% of the UK population?

ANGLO-STAFFS

I have been actively involved in politics for more than 30 years, during that time I have yet to find two people that can agree with each other on a true and exact definition of the working class. It would be impossible to find a definition of working class that would please everyone. The SDP believe in socialism. This means they believe in helping the working class. Everyone knows what the working class is, but an exact definition would be impossble to find.

[ANGLO-STAFFS]

But the SDP believes in socialism. Socialism is all about caring for health and happiness of the working class. .

What a load of krap!!!

The fact that the majority of these women could afford to have these implants done for cosmetic reasons would imply quite a degree of disposable wealth!
Compared to a lot of, what real people call, the working class, they are privilaged.

The SDP would rather spend £100 millions pound (your figures) on a one-off operation for these, relativly, few women than on improving hospitals that can offer ongoing services to communities for years!

SDP, supporting the privilaged at the expence of the 'true' working class!

[SDP]

ANGLO-STAFFS

Definition of Working Class
I have been serching the internet for an exact defintion of the term working class, but all there are only pages and pages of discussion on all the different meanings of the term.

Definition of Socialism
The SDP believe in socialism, but equally there is no exact definition of socialism. It is another one of those words that everyone uses, but it means different things to different people. I believe that everyone in the Labour Party call themselves democratic socialists, but what that exactly means no-one can say.