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    Default What happened to Stuart Wheeler's funding raising efforts.

    One of Stuart Wheeler's main contributions on joining EUKIP was to help raise much needed funds.

    What happened to his plan of matching any donations from EUKIP MEPs?

    Anyone know how much has been raised?

    Is he still even working for EUKIP?

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    He sent out a circular asking for money a few days before Farage did the same thing. Complete obscurity over accounting matters as usual. Who in their right mind does he expext to pour money into an unaccounted for vessel ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-member View Post
    Who in their right mind does he expext to pour money into an unaccounted for vessel ?
    Erm, Mr Warry would, among others. Didn't Mr Warry want people to donate money to pay for unspecified legalcases against UKIP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Fonzarelli View Post
    Erm, Mr Warry would, among others. Didn't Mr Warry want people to donate money to pay for unspecified legalcases against UKIP?
    What has this got to do with the price of eggs?

    Still to resurrect this old story you cannot be quite such a Junior Member as you make out!

    Perhaps you are resurrected from a previous reincarnation!?

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    Stuart Wheeler is one of the good guys. He might not be able to get blood out of a stone, but he sets a good example. I support him because he is one of the very few who I have come across with a brain like that. See any interview with him and it is clear there are few sharper folk than Stuart Wheeler. The BBC doesn’t even try to argue with him. Well I mean they had a little poke once or twice, but regretted it. Lord Pearson is the other man the BBC fear when arguing, and I dare say Tim Congdon would be an equal match in intellect as well. The UKIP are very lucky to have all three. The best thing Stuart Wheeler can do for the party is actually get more of his friends to join up. I think he might have had something to do with Lord Hesketh joining.
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    The point is that a sensible letter from Wheeler would have had financial detail,what was raised what it was spent on and what exactly the new funds were for-not just give us some dosh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-member View Post
    The point is that a sensible letter from Wheeler would have had financial detail,what was raised what it was spent on and what exactly the new funds were for-not just give us some dosh.
    Yes but information is power, and the enemy watches everything. All we need is the confidence that he is doing his best, and I have no reason to think he isn't. He has his heart set on getting out of the EU, like mostly of us do.
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    Two points:-

    1. On the fund raising my guess is he has achieved little especially with regards getting EUKIP MEPs to cough up more.

    2. In terms of influencing EUKIP to become more electable again he appears to have had no noticable affect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall Warry View Post
    Two points:-

    1. On the fund raising my guess is he has achieved little especially with regards getting EUKIP MEPs to cough up more.

    2. In terms of influencing EUKIP to become more electable again he appears to have had no noticable affect.
    I know. It's sad really. He's a good man. He gave the Tories £5m in good faith and he got stitched up and now after a lot of umming and arring, with ideas of forming his own political movement, he decides to throw his weight behind the UKIP, and chances are they don't listen to a word he says. This could be why Lord Pearson left. He was a very smart operator and he was setting traps for the political class like a kind of Montgomery figure. I mean Montgomery managed to win battles under near impossible conditions because he was unconventional and knew how the enemy would react. This kind of thing is way above the heads of your average UKIP staffer. The public were getting to like him as well because the things he did manage, like some really excellent BBC debates, were causing them to warm to him. He said in the end he couldn't stand all the hassle, and I don't blame him.
    It seems to me the UKIP are their own worst enemy. I put it down to populism with perhaps a bit of that Marxian equality in the mix as well. Not everyone is equal, and as a party you have to recognise the talent and look after it. I have said this so many times, but like all the other times, they won't listen. They will keep on putting their foot in it, and as far as I'm concerned, I can't be bothered waiting for the UKIP to get its act together. I think our biggest hope currently is the Tory backbenchers might rebel in a big way. They might even get Cameron booted out. If they really screw up in the local elections like they could well do, then this is all the more likely. Only a new Tory leader would get anywhere on the EU. Cameron has failed in that department.
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    I understand that Stuart Wheeler now refuses to give an answer when asked whether UKIP MEPs have made the donations of £10,000 pa. he requested.Naturally putative donors keep their pockets well sealed.

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