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Yes of course Marilyn. I do like you lump me together with everyone that contributes to that, such that I am suddenly responsible for lunatic bans on St George's flags and prosecutions for innocuous...

There you go Dan and Jack; intimidate and harass Women in burqas and have pitchfork armies marching on Mosques. Sounds like an improvement on the current situation doesn't it?

My point is proved.

Sorry to pick hairs, but I didn't suggest that you'd threatened violence against all of Islam. However, you have said, in this thread, that violence is the only answer for dealing with violence and...

That question was to the other poster who said something about my hypothetical mullah shooting himself. I may have misunderstood his post; it was a tad cryptic.

Dan, have you not been reading Overdere's posts?

No one's threatening violence against all of Islam?

Yes Jack, but still it happened. We need to win every time and they only need to win once. Nothing will change that dynamic. That is why this is a battle for hearts and minds; anyone can go out at...

I have several problems with the arguments advanced thus far.

1. It's being suggested that I am advancing, and the UK Govt is pursuing a 'do nothing' policy. This is simply not true. Criminal...

I understand how radicalization works, I have read what you've written an I'm not arguing against it's existence. What I'm asking is whether you believe your reaction plays into those violent...

If you've laid out your case logically, FO, where's the bit where you explain how meeting violence with violence reduces violence? I must have missed that bit.

And what motivating factors could there have been in making those attitudes worse Dan? Would the EDL, for instance, have hardened those views or softened them?

The fact is that we're stuck with...

If you 'know' that behaviour can be influenced, then you'll agree that we can mitigate the threat or exacerbate it - and your suggestions increase the threat. How can you think that aggression will...

So basically you suggest treating all Muslims as second class citizens and feel that the man on the street should take the law into his own hands and have roaming lynch mobs.

This is why you are...

Can you explain how that could be achieved? Do you honestly think that this is a workable plan? Your opinions are all centred around your impression - something you mistakenly refer to as a fact -...

What do you think is suitable and effective 'retailiation' FO?

Dan, I have worked with Muslims and socialised with them and can find no evidence to support your claim that there are insurmountable differences - although I will admit to finding teetotalers a bit...

Jack Tyler; a considered response, thank you.

I disagree that there is nothing further being suggested than the deportation of a few hardliners. I would say that there is a general and...

Semantics Dan Dare? The question was previewed previously. You are the only person that answered it and I disagreed.

However, we could get into some finer detail; I'm sure I also asked where...

So, as ever, you lot are unable to address a question. I'm quite happy to trade insults, but I do always seem to get bored of it before you do.

If anyone actually wants to address the question...

Finally we're in agreement.

And let me say one last time, if you want to debate the question, then please do so.

You came here and threw muck around like a petulant monkey - your standard routine. You have said nothing in this thread related to the original post or the central question.

If you are so concerned that we should not stray into personal insult then why don't you address the subject of original post?

I refer you back to your post "FO is like Choudray? You're an idiot"....

Classic :-)

More meaningless waffle that simply avoids the question. It's all very well getting uppity, but you haven't said anything of note have you? My question is laid out in a post above; you effectively...

I'm actually quite impressed that you can spell 'moron'. Well done.